MyMindIsLikeAnOcean

They’re tripling down on Trumps “antifa terrorist” schtick: they’re stringing together anything they can that might make it appear (to the faithful) that these women are part of a terrorist network that targets ICE officers - and conservatives in general.

It’s bullshit. It pains loose associations and vibes as well organized groups and rigid ideologies.

The best fascist defence is a fascist offence.

Billy Corgan has been crazy for a long time.

Yeap. They don’t care about the law…they just care about what sounds good to their people in clips.

If you’re a Democrat your car immediately becomes a lethal weapon are you must be stopped by any means necessary -  if the pedestrian is a Republican.

If you’re a Republican you may use your vehicle to kill any Democrat under any circumstances.

There’s no attempt to reconcile these two conflicting opinions…from a knuckle dragging Fox viewer to SCOTUS.

Thanks for the bad faith exchange a la Reddit. Nostalgic. Some people just want to pick fights and be jerks, and there’s nothing I can do about it.

It’s weird that they’d release it.

Her last words were something like “I’m not mad” and his were “fucking bitch”.

I got banned from Reddit for quoting Worf from Star Trek.

Yes. Chainsaws are very safe…if you get a newer chainsaw you basically have to intentionally injure yourself with it.

Seems like this is a pointless argument about potentially dangerous vs statistically dangerous.

I’ll concede that you’re paid well because all the training you receive to make your dangerous job safe puts a premium on labour in your sector. Better?

I’m trying to stick to your original question, though: the most (statistically) dangerous jobs under capitalism aren’t very well paid - relatively (like resource extraction), and under communism all jobs aren’t paid the same.

Oh…the Canadian system is absolutely not funded as well as the Nordic countries, for example…and it’s getting worse as transfer payments continue to be cut, and as provinces don’t spend those payments on health.

The issue isn’t the aging population so much as what I said above: governments keep using healthcare to balance budgets because it’s such a big line item and it’s low hanging fruit they can use to show fiscal “success”. It would be easy to just fund our system…and that, in turn, would make our lives cheaper.

But fiscally “conservative” governments like to perpetuate the myth that our system has poor outcomes and paying out of pocket is preferable…so rich people can benefit from their wealth - health wise. It’s sad to watch it erode.

His job is potentially dangerous, not statistically dangerous. It’s statistically very safe. We don’t call air travel less safe because you might die more often when there’s an accident…the analogy holds here.

It’s beside the point because the most dangerous jobs aren’t well paid under capitalism, and you misunderstand communism if you believe that all jobs pay the same.

My statements are accurate and please miss me with the ad hominem attacks…they’re not a substitute for an argument.

Your job remains statistically safe for all the reasons you stated. Yes, your job has a very high proportion of fatalities vs injuries…I accounted for that.

I’m not trying to diminish you or your job. I’m just saying you’re paid well, not because it’s dangerous, but rather because you need a lot of expertise to do it and it’s more difficult for your industry to find people that fit the qualifications.

The most dangerous jobs, like the ones I listed earlier, do not tend to pay very well if “danger” is your only metric.

Getting back to the topic, under communism people who work in dangerous or high skilled jobs would be more likely to make more money…not less.

It absolutely depends on where you are…I allowed for that in my reply. I’m talking about the national average…including all people…not just rich ones.

I’m skeptical that in Quebec that you die of “cancer” before receiving treatment (without evidence)…because I’m familiar with the care here in Ontario, and that’s generally not the case. My guess is you’re talking about a specific type of more rare cancer treatment that’s not covered by your province.

But, I mean, yes…if you can afford to pay to skip the line…obviously you’re going to have better outcomes in the US system. I said that. But you have to count all the people that can’t afford it or forego care entirely…and in your anecdote you’re not doing that.

I’ll repeat that most people can not afford to skip the line.

Your job remains statistically safe. Calling it “dangerous” isn’t accurate.

Your argument is like saying flying is more dangerous than other travel because you die more often when there’s an accident.

You gave me a very specific job title…one that I happen to know is statistically safe. If you have data that proves otherwise, present it.

The OP didn’t say they were in “heavy industry” they said they were in a specific job. A job I happen to know is safe.

Not sure why you’d make an unforced error and change his job to your job. Especially when I literally said your job was among the most dangerous in my reply.

If you asking how you secure your residence against ICE…good luck with that. They have legal access to an expansion of the Patriot Act for warrants, and they have toys they’d love to use against any home security. All that physical security is going to do is give them probable cause.

Like…you can find sweet spots where US care is faster than Canadian care when you compare apples to apples…ie if you’re wealthier and your region doesn’t have poor people to care for. It should be obvious why that’s the case and how erosionary it is for our rich to lobby to pull their tax dollars out of our system so they can seek non-emergency care down there or in our increasing amount of private clinics.

When our media criticizes Canadian health care…it’s almost a single procedure criticism: hip replacements. But when they compare Canada to the US…they don’t mention that a giant chunk of Americans just don’t get hip replacements because they’re ineligible or they can’t afford them, so they’re not even counting those people in the queues. Up here a homeless junkie is on the same wait list as a billionaire (in theory…but not in practice because a homeless junkie isn’t very likely to be diagnosed).

Yes, if a Republican intentionally uses their body to block a benign vehicle and unnecessarily escalates the situation by drawing their weapon then deadly force is required…

…but if a Republican is in a vehicle amongst peaceful protesters, then any vehicle becomes a weapon of self defence.