Misogyny and misandry are unfortunately both very real and very bad.

Don’t blame you one bit. Best of luck with that!

I’ll engage with people when I feel it might be productive. Nobody likes talking to a brick wall.

1. Tate belongs in a jail cell. Period. He is human garbage who makes the world a worse place to live in.

2. I believe feminism is important nowadays, especially during the Trump years. The government is literally targeting women’s rights. That is unacceptable.

I might disagree with feminists from time to time, but I realize that overall, their hearts are in the right place. I can certainly not say the same about Tate and his ilk.

Yeah, fun fact: It’s wrong to stereotype people, and men happen to be people. Crazy, huh?

If I can correct men when they say dehumanizing and misogynist things about women, then you can correct women when they say dehumanizing and misandrist things about men.

This isn’t hard to understand. Please don’t be intentionally obtuse. It’s not a good look for you.

Complete the following sentence:

“Live by the sword, ___ __ ___ _____.”

Nope. No more excuses for Democrats.

If the Democrats weren’t so spineless, Garland would be a Supreme Court Justice right now…

…But then again, maybe it’s for the better. Seeing how often Garland slept on the job while he was Attorney General, Garland’s performance shows he was clearly a poor choice for either Supreme Court Justice or Attorney General in the first place.

We’re all tired of Democrats being weak, incompetent, and useless for anything other than collecting lobbyist bribes and insider trading info. No more excuses. Do better, Democrats.

Grown men seem to need more coddling than I got as a little girl … Sorry that evolution is hurting your brains right now

Unfortunately, attitudes like these are why Democrats lost an election that they damn well should have won by a landslide.

You, as a woman, now have fewer rights than you did 5 years ago. Want to have those rights restored? Well, you need to actually win elections for that to happen.

Do you believe that taking this type of attitude with “all men” (Who make up 50% of all voters, by the way) will help you win those rights that you lost back?

The reason people are angry is because when things are reversed and Republicans “don’t have the levers of power”, they don’t let that stop them from getting their way. No, Republicans figure out a way.

Republicans will come up with some obscure rule or law from the 1800s, or bribe/threaten Democrats in swing/conservative areas to join them, or not allowing a vote on something via underhanded means, or whatever.

Hell, just look at Mitch McConnell denying Obama a Supreme Court seat. That was illegal. McConnell got away with it. Not only do Democrats refuse to stoop as low as Republicans to get what they want with their “when they go low, we go high” BS, but Democrats won’t even put up a fight when the Republicans are clearly in the wrong.

That’s why so many people are saying, “Do something!” to Democrats. Because we all know that if the parties were reversed, Republicans would damn well be doing something, even if that ‘something’ is illegal or just plain morally wrong.

You are the one arguing in bad faith by straw-manning me. You entered this thread with a whataboutism. And you have been up and down this thread accusing anyone who disagrees with you is guilty of “Oppression Olympics” or that they don’t believe men’s issues exist.

^ Translation from Snippy to English: “I’m not here to actually engage in healthy debate: Rather, I’m here to pick fights and “win one for my team”. Also, I hereby volunteer to be on TheFudd’s block list, because I am incapable of having a civil discussion.”

Not cool. Do better.

I’m not here in good faith?

No. You aren’t. And your snippy little attitude problem, along with you misconstruing everything I say, is proof of that.

I will take your angry little diatribe as you conceding the argument, and volunteering to be on my block list.

Not cool. Do better.

“Liar”?

How about instead of having an attitude problem with me, we both agree that neither men nor women should be abused and both genders have unique issues that, in a healthy society, would be acknowledged and addressed?

Or are you just here to argue with someone?

you’re choosing to use that to invalidate other people who go through that? Wow.

Wrong - And knock off the pearl-clutching. I’m literally the one who just said that the whole “Oppression Olympics” mentality is toxic and needs to go.

Don’t misconstrue my message. This is not a zero-sum game. We can address the issues of both genders at once, and there’s nothing “all lives matter-ish” about saying that.

I’m starting to get the idea that you aren’t here to speak in good faith. If you’re just here because you want to win an internet argument for “your side”, go elsewhere for that.

Oh? Because I’ve experienced domestic violence at the hands of a woman.

Are you telling me that my life does not matter?

I refuse to belittle or diminish anyone’s suffering who’s been through domestic violence. Doesn’t matter if they are a man or a woman, I hope that your neighbor finds away to get out of their abusive situation.

So, no answer then?

Oh, you got your answer. You just didn’t like the answer - Probably because the answer acknowledged that men’s problems actually exist in this regard, and you don’t like that either.

You know what I didn’t like? My ex beating the shit out of me, and getting away with it every single time because just because she’s a woman.

What? Saying one thing is on a different level is not the same as saying the other doesn’t exist.

Well, a big part of men’s problem here is plenty of people do say that in one way or another - That men’s problems in this regard “don’t exist”.

I’ve experienced domestic violence before. She preferred to knock the shit out of me when I was sleeping. I don’t care how strong you think you are, you aren’t able to protect yourself when you are asleep.

I have flat-out had people tell me that “men cannot be abused by women, just like how a woman can’t r-pe a man” when I’ve told people about the situation.

How else am I to interpret that, other than “your problems don’t exist”?

Yes, they are both dicks.

Stop. Right there. That’s all you need to say.

Cut off that other crap about men “running the most powerful government in the world”. I guarantee the average man does not “run the world”. I sure as hell don’t. Do you? No? Then stop.

No more saying “My side has it worse, so your side doesn’t deserve to have your problems addressed”, neither gender should have their very real problems ignored.

There are no winners in the “Oppression Olympics”, only losers. The first step towards not being a loser is to stop thinking like a loser.

Not-so-fun fact: If you call the domestic abuse hotline as a male who’s experiencing violence at the hands of a woman, they will just hang up on you.

Source: I was in a physically abusive relationship and tried to call the domestic abuse hotline for advice, and they hung up on me.

LMAO let’s not pretend like places such as /FemaleDatingStrategy don’t exist. Misogynists and misandrists are two sides of the same coin. If I have no problem saying that misogynists like Andrew Tate are shitheads, then you can admit that man-hating misandrists are also shitheads.

And don’t you start telling me “Oh, but woman-hating misogynists are worse” because then the conversation turns in to the “Oppression Olympics” and all people do is focus on arguing about who has it worse instead of focusing on actually fixing anybody’s problems. Both misogynists and misandrists are bad, and both should be condemned.