It’s the concept that it is good to moderate these spaces like that that bothers. As a human I need to be challenged and that includes dealing with perceptibly negative commentary from people. Not just some whitewashed version of some propagandized online personas masquerading as the the “best” of human beings.

Like IRL, any truly gratifying social function includes the possibility of heated debate and some real feelings exchanged, real things happening outside your comfort zone, not politeness theater that reassures us we are the betters in this society. And that’s all to common thinking nowadays, that we are agreeable and therfore the best thing you can be, like thats what polite type dicks/assholes are honestly. And there’s a reason you turn to online spaces to validate yourselves. Because people dont actually like you enough IRL. And you want to get social stuff done here. Likely to just exchange prefab thinking which is OK. But they want to moderate Piefed to keep it ‘whitewashed’ and that’s insulting to human intelligence and experience IMHO

Its not your dinner party just because its your server. And if that’s why you made it. Then I think that’s self-centered, self-masturbatory and generally uncool shit instead the awesome federated space filled with reasonably unfiltered ideas that it was supposed to have been/could have been.

Semi moderated spaces are wonderful. If its not actually bad don’t worry about it type deal. Learn to ignore, filter and move on. Just like real life. Ive reported like 3 posts total and I’ve had death threats levied and some insane people saying some intentionally horrible shit. OK, oh well, learned some shit about myself or something outside, got stronger, moved on a better more capable person. Part of life. Its not going away because you removed it from the public forum. I feel like unless its really bad. It should be witnessed. Someone got hurt by that? How much? Really? Or is it just playing into some newfound posturing contest type thing? Because that just creates a new power structure, one where to be hurt tactically in order to invalidate or validate the discussion accordingly is used and abused. Overprotection comes with serious downsides, it feels like people here dont understand this concept. You will NEVER be able to handle or win power over yourself or the world it by hiding away from what it is.

So I appreciate the clarity but I still don’t approve of the sentiment and frankly neither should you. It alienates like 50 percent of the world and all the contributions negative and inflammatory people can make (which is plenty, truly.)

Ive needed people to hammer into me, call me on my bullshit, and not elate just cause its perceptually harmful to my wellbeing. That’s the point. It hurt. I have to adjust or accept being a plaything for those that will do that for whatever reasons. And that’s no way to conduct yourself honestly. And many others will need that to grow and overcome things (trauma bullshit, groupthink bs, propaganda bs et al.)

I understand wanting to make safe space for people to be in but GYATT DAMN were past the point of that utility and that being good when you start talking about making some voices (negative ones, less visible by DESIGN)

People need to be able to make social mistakes and/or be assholes and get called on it and to leave it up as an example, not simply delete it and def not hide away from that all the time. Its helpful if people can learn to perceive things like that and toughen up so that the world doesn’t hurt us as much and we can contribute better as a member of civilization. Negative people are part of the world and have plenty to say btw. I LOVE to see those kinds of comments so this is strait bs from that POV. You can jerk off each other as much as you want but thats still gonna be true at the end of the day, and probably forever.

Guess its time to plan out a proper server and compete at that level. Cause this circlejerking shit is just a bit too like Reddit. And I have the technical skill, I just don’t want to have to put in that high a level of effort to wake people up to that I guess.

Sort of sorry for the essay here. Sort of not. Obviously felt it was necessary. Not all positivity is actually good positivity. And I think negative people and down voters should be equal on their own merits (tho with moderating decisions it might be considered it should almost always be by comment as well as context aware. Not just to label them as a “bad person” so your not allowed to be here type groupthinking bullshit) Each comment moderated equally on its own merits. Always and forever. (unless specifically necessary due to some incredibly remarkable circumstance and even then be SUPER careful because otherwise you miss out on the other HALF the world that will still impact your everyday life whether you understand it/that, or witness it/that, or not.

Especially for the younger ones still trying to figure it out, its better to understand wtf is going on out there then to be caught by surprise or be unable to participate in the world because they can’t handle it as a result of this cowardice. Its not doing the world any favors. Keep the actual bots out. Leave the negativity in as long as its not an actual hazard.

Jesus Christ I hate that the internet is turning this space into your shitty fucking idea of a dinner party

It’s negative! Oh no better hide that, because some jerks decided being polite is the ultimate Maxim of human expression

This is a really good read, not sure why its not being appreciated more

Well thought out and well done, thanks for sharing

Guess it just kinda pisses everyone off by not “taking a side” on this set of issues but its a rock solid blogpost for anyone IMO

So your argument is that you are unintelligent… Interesting defense

Evidence is abounding

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/rothschilds-facts-inside-history-s-richest-family/

https://theenterpriseworld.com/the-rothschild-family/

Also good non answer on why you even comment at all, it does require motivation but you are obviously disguising as just some guy who happens knows a ton about them but won’t say why and is just wanting everyone to know how has-been they are now apparently, again without any actual reason lmao

Your not discussing anything honestly, your just derailing and trolling which is PR and Marketing firms 101 for comment farms and paid bots and it just so HAPPENS your following that pattern too. Must be a coincidence there as well.

Lots of that with you rn, weird eh?

As pointed out that is a deliberate effort your making and needs to have a motivation to support it (that you seem super uninterested in answering anything about)

Between offshore banks, shell companies, their own private trusts and the attorney client privilege that protects them they can hide their true wealth, thats how the mega rich do shit. Away of the eyes of an average persons ability to concretely know whats going on there.

That there is a list of people that don’t do that very well (or just don’t want to be bothered to go through all that extra effort when they really just don’t have so much to gain from obscuring their wealth to that degree)

But really you seem to know (and CARE) so much about the Rothschild’s, so it does beg the question.

Why do you even care enough to defend them here? Like I know why I dont. They are at the center of or, at very least, concerningly involved with, every major social and economic upset in my country for the last 200 years or more. For profit and power fantasy playing mostly based on the information available

(But also lots of Epstein-like weird shit. Like that I can do anything and because I’m interconnected with power groups, because Im so wealthy, I can pay people to do almost everything I want to (including manipulate, threaten and/or torture and kill people on their behalf) and also I’m so interconnected to all these powerful people that I’m basically untouchable and ungovernable and am permitted by governments because the public can’t know how it works out there, now i can do almost whatever to almost whoever unless but I’m digressing too much from the point)

Never heard anyone defend anyones honor like this without a heck of a reason. So let’s hear it or fuck off with what appears to be, a disingenuous and half-assed commentary to derail the conversation away from that exact thing. Possibly deliberately.

Such as when a PR firm gets hired to defend someones reputation due to say… a certain lawsuit that’s getting their family some bad press and/or negative attention and would be getting paid to accomplish

https://leveragewithmedia.com/public-relations-firms-guide/

No you do not wish me well you lying ass bitch

No its not OK you deserve whatever you get with your data sharing bullshit

Ooh look I’m so stable and secure (youre not or you could read shit like that without breaking) and youre so mad someone called you out so well you decided to fuck with them all polite like that makes you better then everyone else

Your self-aggrandizing award is in the mail and should be there in 3-5 business days 👍

Talk about the ick

Fuck off back to obscurity you game playing ass

Influence isn’t what was being pointed out you disingenuous coward

They ARE extremely powerful, they are extremely wealthy. That much is concrete

Less influence then a king isn’t suddenly make you a peasant.

They have slightly less power and influence, displayed in places you can easily witness it, since the 1800s. But wait! They also have a fuckton more money then they had (which by definition, is power and influence)

Huh still on top of the world then? Thanks for coming in you silly little man. Woman? Nonbinary person? Doesn’t matter really

Fuck you im not your god damn dancing internet monkey

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family 😎

You made claims man, now you give me a source of how it hasn’t consolidated. (Even tho that doesn’t matter in the slightest when it comes to modern day wealth empires like this but who cares its the about the principle now)

Now dance monkey. Dance.

Its not about consolidation man its how its grown from what it was over the course of time and how its grown enough to keep up with any dilution they may have experienced as time passed

And they don’t just let anybody walk around with their name man. They take their shit seriously. Its a pretty serious family there you are acting like is some scattered diluted group like some old royals that fell out of favor and died out or something

Its grown and grown and grown over a loooog time and historically NOT reduced hence them being such a prime example of this type of wealth and hence my commentary about you being intentionally obtuse

This guy:

Being intentionally stupid for some reason

So are you like trying to win a contest or something?

Uh huh which is why he simply illustrated the point being made and why its flawed lmao

He’s responding to a meme criticizing this exact idea. So he’ll likely criticising that criticism and defending its position.

This is like 5th grade level analysis bro it’s not that complicated

But hey defend your guy. And the context is that you are defending that idea as well. Because why are you defending this and not every time someone reads into a comment? Likely because you have an issue with what he’s pointing out. Not like automatically but it pretty likely DOES mean that and that matters to people, which is why we concern ourselves with implications of things we say in the modern age, it reveals shit

Really not surprising but ofc you wouldn’t

Read/hear words? About ME? That aren’t in blind agreement? Not gonna do that shit

Well its up there and its scathing but thats how you stay ignorant you got that down pat 😎

Clearly self-reflection isn’t something you can handle so I wouldn’t, for your psychological wellbeing and all

And why did that change your mind?

The abuses they did do with it and could have done with your data before ai weren’t enough to concern you but amalgamating that data with countless others to have it abused that way is too much for you? Even tho they literally already were doing that exact thing before AI was available with basic data science?

Using your data to take advantage of every human weakness they could figure out was already happening but NOW your not OK with it? Like has it made you rethink everything or just nah turn you off now cause your ingroup doesnt approve of it coward bullshit?

The law could have changed at any time to turn you into a criminal based on the public data you intentionally gave away. They could have arrested you for supporting the wrong cause, emailing the wrong person or exploring the political ideas they didnt like or arrested people in your network because it gave them access to THEIR data as well (google android push notifications, messages, emails stored on their networks like your friends replys, Facebook messages, snapchats, all for sale if they wanted it to be)

And its not sounding like your reflecting on it so much as your simply moving on from being a blissfully ignorant, happy and from the sounds of the comment, enthusiastically willing participant in it all despite all the evidence to the contrary the entire time? That’s fucked up beyond the usual

Like its already fucked. We needed you to not sell us all out cause your ingroup was into that shit at the time and just changing teams suddenly doesn’t mean your not gonna fall for it all over next time. (unless you know WHY it was fucked up to begin and this doesnt sound like you know that)

Yeah this is what happens when you pay people to argue online

Its not really supposed to make sense

Its just supposed to sound like the bad people are winning if you don’t agree on reflex. They learned it from trump and tucker and every other asshole that gets away with it (advertising/marketing firms love that shit as well as they can imply you will be hated or distrusted if you don’t wear blank or like blank or support company/politician/group blank)

So you hate America then. You said an american did something negative. So you hate americans is that right?

That’s just not how honest people sound

That’s how really desperate people sound when they are super worried other people are not agreeing with them and are seeing through their bullshit and are trying to convince anyone and everyone that your ‘the bad guy’ instead of facing their own shittiness 👍

Hope it helps. These paid or volunteer clowns are cowardly and they hope you won’t notice it and discredit their talking points if they talk like this

Anti-Semite is going the way of terrorist

Its so overplayed, oversold and abused in so many ways, so often, that its almost meaningless now. And is mostly just a clear, intentional and abusive manipulation tactic to protect perpetrators from some shit they did and should 1000% be held accountable for.

Either you strait up hate Jews and that goes past anti Semite or it doesnt even apply to the conversation

Your not wrong about tucker exaggerating shit but fuck you for this you this tactical manipulation as if were all too dumb to see that shit.

Its such a bitch move

It also is a symptom of ADHD so its a funny kind type comment when perceived from ADHD peoples perspective, cause you ignore a lot of symptoms like that compulsively till you realize that they are related to each other because of ADHD

I agree otherwise with the frustration you feel about mental health being so much the focus that it becomes ‘everybody’s this because (insert normal behavior)’ and thats altogether too much ‘jumping the shark’ style self diagnosing. And it is a problem I suppose. But not worse then not caring about mental health issues. Anyways.

That’s quintessential ADHD shit right there 😄

Holy shit that’s old, fun was a different flavor entirely back then. I’m guessing here but I did do computer work on old peoples machines and was shown some old shit back in the day

It was charming but strange for me, the humor just didn’t land, it was usually plain or simple but it was usually deliberately charming in some way. Like that was the people on the internet, people that were enthralled by the charm of it all. Computers, talk to each other by message and now digital pictures and brand new at the time, moving pictures and colors and even fucking sound! (Wow) And people were into that shit like gangbusters

Wonder if the gems were worth the rest of the stuff that used to circulate on email (like chain emails and viruses and so much SPAM, charming spam by todays standards tbf but shit people are different digital beasts altogether nowadays 😂😎👍

Hope some of that got archived tho for the vibe recollection honestly (and posterity cause like I said, charming as fuck would be so cool to train AI with that tbh)

Holy fuckballs. We really gotta get this solution implemented somehow that’s fascinatingly brilliant

Keep thinking and posting the thoughts. Its doing you, and us all, some good 👍

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