True, which is why I prefaced about the nitpick

Only nitpicking this because I have a family member named Millie. If you shorten Mildred, it would be Milly with a “y”

Millie spelled like this isn’t short for anything, it’s the full name.

Kbin looks way too much like the latest version of Reddit that is over designed and cumbersome.

Plenty of third party apps popping up for lemmy with Apollo like UI/UX that is much better (like wefwef or Memmy for example).

What is there to do? Is it just meme accounts or did your friends start using it too?

I mostly use instagram to interact with IRL friends and follow some meme accounts, so I’m curious what this app even looks like if my friends aren’t on it.

Man I’m in my 30s and still do bunny ears to tie my shoes. Never really learned the “correct” way. My shoes do come untied a lot so maybe it’s time.

wtf are you doing with your poop knife to enjoy it? Poop knifing should be all business, sir.

This might be the only actual old person trait in this thread (OP included). The rest is basically just “I don’t want to be fucked over.”

Absolutely. We need a prison reform.

It’s absolutely a reason why they shouldn’t vote. They don’t pay taxes here, they don’t need or deserve representation because of this. It’s so simple you are unable to grasp it.

That’s great that you think that, but legally they are still a parent with a child so by Musks suggestion, they’d still be able to vote. You seem to be confusing philosophical thought exercises with legal definitions and real world applications.

So let me know if you ever come up with some evidence that suggests limiting voters to parents only would be a net benefit. Again, doesn’t need to be studies. Isn’t there some research on voting patterns and ideals of parents vs non-parents? I already gave one example but it doesn’t support your argument, quiet the opposite exactly. Your one study showed that parents don’t stop smoking weed, just slow down a little bit, so you can’t really argue they are better because they don’t smoke weed since that’s not true.

Until then, feel free to respond with more nonsense, I’ll just stop responding until you formulate an actual argument for your position.

No, I said foreigners don’t need representation in the US government. Way to oversimplify my point. And then you bitch about my comprehension skills.

Okay dude, we get it. You have literally no argument or evidence for why only parents should be allowed to vote, just a vague and empty claim that they care more about the future (as if at least half of parents don’t vote for regressive policies).

I’m not sure how the behavior of children with absent fathers is even remotely relevant to this discussion (other than support my point that parents can be pieces of shit).

Here is a more relevant study: Having a daughter makes parents more likely to vote Republican:

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2013/11/25/study-having-daughters-makes-parents-more-likely-to-be-republican/

So is your argument that society is better if more people vote Republican, which is notorious for having no platform and supports regressive policies?

Oof. Delusional. Not sure why I’ve even wasted as much time as I have replying to you. The projection claiming I’ve made no argument when you are supposed to be the one arguing for why only parents should vote…lmao

And no, I don’t care about twitter or musk at all to be honest. I’ve never had a twitter account and I don’t have strong feelings on Musk other than the obvious fact that he’s clearly not as smart as he thinks he is. So you’ve got me pegged wrong there, good work.

I have actually responded why Canadians shouldn’t vote but apparently it was too complex of an answer for you. But yeah I’m not going to just sit here arguing random points you feel like bringing up because you still have zero argument for what we are actually discussing.

Your answer for why only parents should be able to vote so far has been “why not let Canadians vote?” Which is so fucking stupid and when I point that out you go “see?? You can’t even argue why not only parents should be able to vote by arguing why Canadians shouldn’t be able to vote! Logical fallacies!” I haven’t even asked for a single study. I’ve asked for evidence. It can be anything. The best you have so far is a study that shows people slow down a little bit on smoking weed when they have kids that even you admitted is nothing.

This conversation has essentially been that image of the pigeon knocking over all the chess pieces and shitting on the board while claiming they won. Congrats, pigeon.

wtf are you talking about? You can be broke as shit with no job and have as many kids as you want with zero intentions of getting your shit together. Happens all the time actually. You don’t even need to stick around for 18 years.

The limitations that are set today are literally the most basic that can be - be a taxpaying member of the society. The criminal status differs by state.

You are saying they are presumably cool with me which is the root of the issue in all your arguments - you bring up weakly related points and try to act like I’m they are part of any argument I’ve made so you can argue your made up points instead of the very basic thing we are discussing.

You realize this though so you dig up some study about MARIJUANA use in adults (if you are actually taking this seriously you’d then go on to prove that using marijuana makes you a bad person), but immediately realize how weak this is as well so you write it off for me by saying it won’t be enough to convince me (for the wrong reasons, of course by saying I’m uninterested rather than the fact that it’s just incredibly weak…you aren’t ready to admit yet that there still is no argument to be made here).

Then you wrap it up nicely with your trademark segue into explaining how well you’ve created fake arguments, pinned them on me, and labeled them as a some sort of logical fallacy. All the while my position hasn’t changed once - show me actual evidence this is a good idea or there is no discussion to be had.

Nice.

Holy shit dude, you seem like the kind of guy that just likes to hear themselves talk.

What you’ve tried to do is shift the topic into whatever direction you can to deflect from the very simple fact that not only is there zero evidence to support the claim that only people with children should vote, but even on the surface level it makes no sense and the rationale you provided is flawed because it’s based on complete assumptions you are calling intuition.

I don’t care about your thoughts on suppressing voters outside of this specific scenario. I never did. The fact that “people outside the US don’t need representation inside the US government” leaves you still wondering why I don’t think Canadians should be able to vote in US elections makes me question your intention of even comprehending the basics of what we are talking about.

So your entire argument so far boils down to “I have zero sources or evidence for any of this, but it feels like this is right if you don’t think too much about it.”

I’ve said literally nothing about who should be eligible to vote, other than saying that limiting it to just people who have children is a bad idea. Not sure why you keep acting like I’m suggesting minors and foreigners should vote. It’s very obvious you are trying to create my argument for me here and it’s just not working.

So anyway, you’ve added nothing to this discussion except demonstrate that owning a thesaurus doesn’t win a debate for you. Let me know if you ever actually have tangible evidence of anything you are arguing here, otherwise this discussion is pointless and based on nothing more than your feelings (or as you call, intuition…woah).

Not to nitpick but not ALL prisons in the US are for-profit. They should be illegal though.

Fun fact - other countries that have for-profit prisons include the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, Chile, Jamaica, Japan, Mexico, Peru, South Africa, South Korea and Thailand.

This won’t do much since most of these prisons operate under state jurisdiction, but in 2021, President Joe Biden issued an executive order to stop the United States Department of Justice from renewing further contracts with private prisons.

Yeah, no. The burden of proof is on the person that made the claim.

I don’t even understand your point about letting Canadians vote. Why would someone that doesn’t live in the US need representation in the US government? I think you can find a better “slippery slope” argument if you put your mind to it.

What evidence do you have that shows that the majority of people with children are more forward-thinking and more resistant to flippant changes in order to achieve a sense of stability?

Also, why do you think the goal of society is to promote the ideals of the knowledgeable/virtuous? And why is limiting voting rights the best way to do this?

Shouldn’t the goal of society to be to promote education so that as many people as possible have the opportunity to be knowledgeable and virtuous? I think you’d agree with this, but I know you’ll loop it back and say limiting voting to people with children would help this, to which I say again, where is the evidence?

I mean, feel free to fix the logic and then we can talk about.

There isn’t much to rationalize, it’s not a good idea at the surface level, you don’t need to dig deep to see that.

I have kids but this is such a dumb take. Some of the worst people that don’t give a shit about anything or anyone other than themselves have a kids. It’s not hard. The barrier to entry is super low.

On the other hand, some of the most genuinely thoughtful and kind people in the world have no kids whether by choice or otherwise.

This would be a horrible way to do things.