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I think you should learn to read properly first.

Oh look how you’re contradicting yourself…

Fuck you, you racist genocide condoning colonizer.

This is how a lowlife respond to arguments. By mere insult.

I think you’re forgetting the fact that the jews have always been living in that piece of land. It’s not exclusive to the arab. And check your history lesson. There were never a nation called palestine ever, even before 1948. That piece of land have always been a territory of another nation/empire, one after another. Don’t even mention about connecting the dots if you can’t even understand a simple history.

If your sources are conspiracy theories, then what could I say?

A small minded person like you couldn’t even take this simple fact.

Israel is not a threat to palestine if hamas or any other palestinian stop threatening the israeli. They did accepted the UN plan to coexist side by side at first, something the arab world rejected by jointly attacking israel. Now they’re begging to revert to the original plan after israel emerged victorious over them. It is not for us as outsiders to decide, but for among them to find a solution.

Damn, how far fetched are you from reality? The West Bank are controlled by the Palestine Authority and Gaza by Hamas. Since 2005. Read it up. Israel is the one supplying water, electricity and oil to these two area because they’re not capable to produce them on their own. Let me ask you. If it were you, would you give your enemy the luxury of all of those? Israel did. And they stopped giving more to gaza after they were threaten by hamas. Justified or not?

Again, what are your sources for these claim? Arabs in Israel does have rights as any Israeli as long they are a citizen. They can vote, they can enter politics, or do any kind of jobs. There are even arab soldiers in the IDF! Palestinian on the other hand are treated like how any country would treats foreign citizens. Of course they won’t be let freely to do what they want in a sovereign country. You have to know the difference between an arab israeli and a palestine. And you have to think of Israel as a country. They’re controlling the border? Why shouldn’t they control their own border?

Are you stupid or what? The analogy meant to say that there are unintended consequences for every action. Curing cancer have unintended effect as such.

Both sides should be guaranteed safety from any threats before we can talk about peace.

Netanyahu is one person. If you think that a whole organization from top to bottom left and right are being complicit in jailing innocent civilians. You don’t truly understand the complexity of human nature.

And palestine was never a nation before 1988.

How do you kill cancer cells? By ruining your own body with strong drugs. You got weakened immune system and become sterilized (cannot produce offsprings). That’s how dangerous hamas and it’s ideology is to israel’s existence.

And we should condemn hamas for the evil things they’ve done.

Which land does israel occupies actually? I mean prior to this war. Gaza? Or the West Bank? Each have their own local authority and they conduct their own election (supposedly, but none was held for such a long time because of their own despute), they have their own constitution, a president and a prime minister. So can you tell me which part are being occupied?

How much do you see israel as a demon, that you cannot think of them as people who are trying to survive? I don’t know where you live, but what would you do if some of your neighbour keep trying to kill one of your family? Knowing that they once brought the whole neighbourhood to attack your home. Should you just let them do as they please?

As rule of war, israel should claim all the land of palestine, from the river to the sea, because they won the war. But they actually gave back gaza and the west bank to the palestinian, and let them have their own government. What more do you expect them to do?

Who is being occupied? Israel disengaged from gaza since 2005. Since hamas won the election, they kept threatening israel’s existence, so how do you suggest israel should respond with such threat?

I think you got your history messed up. The roommate has always been there and the landlord at that time intended for both of you to live side by side, but you refused, and brought your neighbours to attack your roommate but your roomate emerged victorious. Your neighbour then took part of your room before your roommate took them back. Some times later, your roommate gave it back to you, but you keep threatening to eliminate your roommate. So your roommate had no choice but to prevent you from killing them.

If you see history as it is, you’ll get a new perspective on how events unfold. Undeniably hamas is a terrorists organization who hides behind innocent civilians, and israel is exaggerated in their response, but I can see from their point of view because I see history as it is. This is a war between israel and hamas, and like any other war, unfortunately there are casualties among the civilians (which is very difficult to prevent as long as hamas hides behind them).

Okay, so how can you relate that definition with what both sides are doing? I mean from a non-bias perspective.

So how do you define “terrorism” exactly?

So you’re saying that israel doesn’t have any right to protect their own people? I think you forgot to read the fact that these “childrens” must’ve done something to be put into prison or detention, either because they did some crime against israeli or by illegally staying in israel. Do you think they’re too stupid to purposely want to be hated by the whole world by jailing innocent childrens??

Define terrorist.