Yet you chose to reply anyways. It’s always these bougie bullshit to pull the ladder up first then promise a better one that never comes.

When you’re told the children’s book is actually for grade 6 and up.

I’ve seen many driving professionals. The vast vast majority have substantially better driving behavior per km traveled. Again well supported by data.

Similarly, the regressive nature of increasing barriers to driving is well understood. This can be easily shown by looking at the effects of drivers license prohibitions on undocumented immigrants. Again, there is data.

Your point about offsetting costs is ignorant to history. A tried and true approach to “starve the beast” is breaking something now and promising to fix it later. The fixes never come, the costs

It seems like you are someone easily swayed by anecdotes over actual evidence. That’s a really bad way to make policy decisions.

That seems wildly regressive and disproportionately would harm working poor people, who generally would struggle to afford the time and expense involved.

There’s no evidence that experience degrades driving skill, just aging

It’s definitely not an honest conversation when you’ve deliberately and repeatedly chosen to misunderstand what’s being said.

It’s time to grow up and stop believing hucksters and grifters.

For the third time, you cannot separate the grifter from the grift. That’s not “Fuck Elon”, that’s “starlink is not, and never will be, what was promised”

Similarly, you can’t weigh an abstract possibility versus a real cost. You want the conversation to be some philosophical discourse about social vs societal value. But it’s not that, it’s a real situation right now.

And in this real life situation, we have to evaluate what starlink actually is - - a failed toy for wealthy early adopters - - and not what some abstract “could be”.

Especially when we know for a fact that any public promises of that potential are certainly intended to mislead and not inform.

To my knowledge absolutely nothing critical to Ukranian defense uses Starlink.

And again, what is niave is to not heavily discount any claims Elon makes. Starlink provides neglible value currently, what potential might exist is imaginary.

The best thing for the world is to realize Elon was a sunk cost and move on

Okay but you’re falling into Elon’s trap. You can’t weigh future potential against current harm naively. Particularly when it comes from somebody with a long history of over promising and under delivering. Since we pay the full price up front (loss of science, etc) but will never reap the full benefits promised.

Someone finally read their book and now they’re angry about it lol

Hey now, when I copy and paste from stack overflow, that’s called “development”

Wasn’t that later revealed to be a hoax? It was during one of the major waves of legal advice trolls

So what’s one good conservative position?