• Kitathalla
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    It’s amusing to me how true this was when I was a kid playing. Now as an adult, the ‘clues’ they give you are so obvious I feel like I’m barely even playing.

    You can’t go home adventuring again

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      Did you play the original again as an adult? Because I remember reading that for a re-release they updated the water temple to make figuring out where to go easier. I remember that temple being kind of a pain and I wasn’t a kid at the time.

      I think it wasn’t so much about not knowing where I wanted to go but there was a room with water currents that you had to navigate carefully or you’d get pushed out to another section and have to trek back and try again.

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        I don’t have the original N64 golden cartridge anymore (there’s a fun story, involving an insane fundamentalist christian mother), but did play both the ‘Master’ edition and the ‘original’ edition that they put together on a gamecube disc. I remember that the ‘master’ edition water temple was easier than the original, despite the point of ‘master’ being that everything was harder.

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      I had the opposite experience. I played the game growing up and the Water Temple was one of my favorites. I always saw the memes about how difficult it was and laughed it off, since I didn’t remember anything particularly hard about it.

      Then I played the game a few months ago and FUCK ME I could not figure that level out! Eventually had to look up a guide online.

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        I think the part that threw me as a child was when the central tower area raised a platform when you raised the water level. The camera super focuses on the new hole, but I never saw it. Cue the endless frustration that I had to overcome by looking up a guide.

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      The first one was really vague with the clues, especially with the kinda bad translation. The second one is better with the clues but incredibly difficult. I cannot beat Ganon in 2.

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        2? You mean majora’s mask?

        Oh, you mean the very first games. I never got to play through those for real. My first was ocarina of time. I tried LoZ2 on the super disc that you got with wind waker on the gamecube, but I was still young enough (and spoiled from ocarina, majora’s mask, and wind waker) that I didn’t really get into it and beat it.

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          If you want to give it a try sometime, don’t pick up any of the six or eight or however many extra lives are available. You’ll need them for the final dungeon and Ganon. You can read a guide online for the locations, I recommend it.

          I think the game is really fun. Many people hate it. It is the hardest Zelda game by a country mile. My favorite of the series, the original, is second place in difficulty. Every other game in the series has been easy, sometimes absurdly easy like Twilight Princess. Link to the Past is probably the most difficult of anything other than the first two. I didn’t play Majora’s Mask or anything on the GameBoy so I missed two(?) games.

          I actually like how flippantly you say you never beat it because you didn’t really get into it. I have been REALLY into it and I can’t beat it. I beat Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and I can’t beat The Adventure of Link. I played a lot as a kid and I’ve made two serious attempts as an adult. It’s no joke! Good luck!

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            I might have to pull out the disc and fire it up then.

            I actually like how flippantly you say you never beat it because you didn’t really get into it.

            I more meant that I didn’t even try past the first area/level. I remember asking myself, “Is this a zelda game?” because it was just so different than the 3d versions I had played.

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            You can actually beat Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles‽ I thought it was kinda like Tetris or something, where it just goes on until you die (again and again) or the game crashes /s

            I was always proud of my kid-self for almost defeating The Lion King on Sega. I was like two levels away, but always got stuck at the end of a lava-cavern level. Rocks would fall from the top and slowly murder you while you tried to find the exit in a room full of lava geysers.

            Turns out, a slab of rock would eventually fall onto one of the geysers, and you were supposed to stand on it and get rocketed out of the level. I thought it would rocket you into the ceiling of the cave and kill you (I mean, it’s a logical thought)… so I never tried.

            I played it as an adult and I know I would’ve crushed those last levels as a kid. Trying to kill Scar would’ve been another issue (you have to throw him off the cliff) because I would’ve just kept trying to claw him to death… but I think I would’ve eventually done it, at least accidentally

            So yeah, the exit to that lava level still pisses me off lol. Lions can’t pass through solid matter to exit a cave, for fuck’s sake!

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              Lion King is no joke. I beat it with my roommates almost 20 years ago. We were all unemployed and we trained Lion King every day for a week. The level after the one you got stuck on- you just have to get to it, play it until you run out of lives, then repeat until you have it completely memorized.

              And yeah TMNT is totally winnable. You gotta basically get lucky with some of the sewer jumps (hardest part of the game), collect enough missiles for the van, and enough ropes for the roof jumping. That water in "level 2 "everybody cries about ain’t shit once you know that you’re doing.

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                I did go back and beat The Lion King as an adult, after seeing how to get out of the cave. It was kinda nuts how much muscle memory I still had; like riding a bike. Which makes me wonder how many hours I must’ve put into it as a child lol

                I might have to go back and check out TMNT (if I’m feeling up for a little torture). I never could get far in that game; it felt too brutal and confusing. But we’ve got the interwebs now and guides abundant!

                Edit: just noticed your Pixies username… well played