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      First and foremost, my partner went exclusively to single sex schools. He has never actually been present to observe these kinds of behaviors in school age/teenage girls (only dated a few when he was in late teens).

      This is why I have almost no friends left from my time at an all boys boarding high school. Just say the most deranged stuff about women, even now that they’re in their mid 20s. Didn’t grow out if it at all.

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        I had a similar experience in college: most of the people I roomed with and went to class with were self described “South Park Republicans” and most went on to tech jobs which only coddled and amplified their dudebro “nonpolitical” misogyny.

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          I met up with some of them recently and it was just sad. I know people don’t change that much and shouldn’t be expected to, but these guys said the exact same stuff they did when they were 16, almost a decade later. No personal growth in almost a decade. Just sad.

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      First and foremost, my partner went exclusively to single sex schools. He has never actually been present to observe these kinds of behaviors in school age/teenage girls (only dated a few when he was in late teens).

      That’s not a surprise that’s a cause

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      This is one of those things where I’d ask if you’ve brought it up with him, but holy shit I’m so tired of arguing with people all the time.

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      Yep this goes for most of anything. Ignorant people speak in absolutes. Even more so when they’re not self reflecting at all.

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      What has incorrectly been attributed to the individual genders, should have instead been attributed to humanity as a whole. Bitchyness isn’t a woman thing, it’s a human thing, same as- being a dick isn’t a man thing, it’s a human thing.

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            That’s concerning. His observance of women is likely from the bushes outside their bedroom windows.

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                Reality.

                No, that’s solipsism. You’re ignoring everyone else in this thread, and in your offline life, in favor of your own self-pitying fantasies.

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                  I actively seek to have an IRL outlook on life, instead of being terminally online for all intents and purposes.

                  I understand very well what the online socialist left tries to do, establish an alt left style culture to counter the alt right, which I strongly feel has this flaw (all men yadayada), that disallows more engagement and growth. Men and women are supposed to be united, instead of this kind of bickering being a normal thing.

                  People do not really talk in such an unhinged, chaotic manner IRL either, the way they talk behind the keyboard, so I am not that worried.

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        Geez, I pointed out misandry, only for it to happen as a reply. I did not know bigotry was only one way, not both ways.

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          I pointed out misandry

          You being a crybully piece of shit and getting called out for being a crybully piece of shit isn’t misandry. You truly are not all men. Which is fortunate.

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            Bravo, you have solved the problem. * dusts hands *

            Comparing my removed comment versus the other person’s comment on the post reveals nearly identical tendencies, which seems to be a point amusingly missed.

            If my complaint about treating men equally and not shitting on all men is a misogynistic issue, I probably am not going to listen to whoever calls me that. Real misogyny is when women’s rights are attacked, NOT when men ask to be treated the same as what women preach with feminism.

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              Bravo, you have solved the problem. * dusts hands *

              Your passive-aggressive sarcasm makes you look petty and weak here. Your “self improvement” is continuing to sabotage you.

              amusingly

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                You are telling me to go become a redpiller/Tateist lol. Rather be calm and not listen, than swing myself in any direction.

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                  You are telling me to go become a redpiller/Tateist lol.

                  Jordan Peterson once said “clean your room, bucko.” That doesn’t mean that cleaning a room is automatically a bad idea. Likewise, you must have some terrible grasp of lived reality if you think the only reason to not sulk and be passive-aggressive all the time is because of what a human trafficker might have said once.

                  Rather be calm and not listen

                  You keep replying. You keep carrying that cross you built for yourself.

                  than swing myself in any direction

                  You’re freefalling in a self-inflicted rightward direction and fooling no one here.

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        This is precisely why I find myself always taking a step back whenever I end up aligning with the socialist left on social politics. Everytime it is about cis het men self improvement or working out, it becomes about rightwing, redpill or whatever stereotypes you people want everyone to pigeonhole in. If that does not work, cancel, call the man a misogynist and done, hands dusted, no social consideration for men.

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          This is precisely why I find myself always taking a step back whenever I end up aligning with the socialist left on social politics.

          Sure, sure, you are as leftist as they come, butt

          Everytime it is about cis het men self improvement or working out

          Or you pretending it’s all you’re doing when you write Elliot Rodger tier shit like this:

          no social consideration for men

          I can already see the Petersonian crocodile tears. up-yours-woke-moralists

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            Sorry, I never followed lobster boy. He makes me cringe. But I have an actual complaint about western socialist left that seems to care about the optics of helping women and minorities, never realising that, contrary to what feminists illogically say, that not all men are supposed to be put in stereotype boxes.

            About 99% of my politics is pretty much as leftist, but if that 1% care about men’s rights to be treated equally as that of women is going to get labelled as a “Petersonian” or “pseudointellectual” redpill apologist, I welcome that with open arms. That includes comments like this post has, about a woman stereotyping all men based on what is probably her 2-5 male friends.

            We are not going to keep taking shit we are not responsible for. Blame the men that need to be blamed.

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              Sorry

              You’re not, but you sound more passive-aggressive with that Reddit-tier opener. If you’re that big into “self improvement” try improving your delivery style.

              I never followed lobster boy

              Considering how much you’ve already either lied about or laughably misread women around you, I’m going to doubt you here. If you truly haven’t, and you want to continue your crusade of self pity and totally-not-misogyny misogyny, you’re missing out by not signing on with Dr. Professor Peterson Esquire PhD MD. You have no apparent functional differences between your ideology and his.

              About 99% of my politics is pretty much as leftist

              There it is again. You are so totally as leftist as they come, butt

              The thing with bigots like you is that you think it’s some equal (or worse) negative thing to feel even a hint of what you in your privileged position dish out on a regular basis, unnoticed and unseen. If you truly feel oppressed by those evil feeeeemales, look at how many poor oppressed “canceled” men dominate corporate boardrooms and the Fortune 500 list (while burning the planet down).

              is going to get labelled as a “Petersonian” or “pseudointellectual” redpill apologist

              Because you are and have provided absolutely nothing of substance to prove otherwise. If you sermonize against women like a Petersonian, do pseudointellectual Redpill apologism like a pseudointellectual Redpill apologist, and then whine about the labels, the problem is not the labels. It is you.

              Blame the men that need to be blamed.

              You’re one of them. I am a man with good relationships with women, from my wife to my coworkers to my friends. The problem is you. Your pretenses of “self improvement” are keeping you in a bitter and hateful rut and I sincerely hope you drop the nonsense someday.

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            Did your “self improving” consist of listening to pseudo-evolutionary pseudo-psychologists run their mouths?

            Oh no, I refuse to shut up. You are no one to be able to do that, and I effectively seize that power from you. The one who made BS redpill assumptions about me simply saying I was working on self improving my personality during college days, is you. You wrote this, right?

            I think I forgot to partially address the “about women” part. There is another parent comment on this post, where a woman gets to stereotype all men based on her men friends, but that is not misandrist for some bizarre reason. My comment however was similar in tone, not aggressive, and yet it got labelled as misogynistic. If women get to speak on behalf of all men, men also get to speak on behalf of all women. Let’s play fair and equal, since feminists claim to advocate for equality.

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                Uhm yes, someone that trashes others for working on themselves is a trash person, ESPECIALLY when that person claims to be a feminist. Is feminism about equality, or an illogical, incoherent bias towards favouring women no matter what?

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                  So, what did you telling this feminist about your self improvement look like? Did it involve saying anything about the supposed nature of men and/or women?

                  Because you’re doing that here, and “self-improvement” has become synonymous with evo-psych quackery like Jordan Peterson’s

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              men also get to speak on behalf of all women

              I am a man. I will speak on behalf of men that are not you and tell you to fuck off.

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                You do not get to speak on behalf of all men either, if I do not. So, I prefer not listening if this is the message and the way you convey it. I am not functionally same as lobster boy or whoever else, and I find such arguments quite the cheapshot.

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    In my experience they seem to do, at least at their workplace. I’ve never heard a man complain about their coworkers in some mean way… But most women I know do actively complain about them…

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      Do you have male friends? I hear women complain about their coworkers all the time, but it’s not close to the level of awful things / personal attacks I’ve heard from my male friends.

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        I used to work in an appliance factory, and the employees there were split pretty evenly male/female. And here’s the fun part, both men and women could be shitheads, and both men and women could be awesome people.

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    Tumblr is so shit.

    Like it clearly says we asked 3 women but they can’t even read two sentences to get to that fact.

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      but why ask a man in the first place? and even if you do, why present it like it’s two positions of equal merit (and present the man’s first)?

      I don’t know what’s in the article, but the headline itself is pretty funny in it’s absurdity.

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        Being a women yourself only makes you know plus one woman. This qualifies you only a little bit more to answer such a question. A more interesting metric would be how many women you know in total.

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          If the amount of ghosting tantrums I get from every guy the moment I won’t date with them is an indication, probably on speaking terms with more women at once than they are, yes.

          Not that I would deny them their chance to tell me what I think