The death toll means around ten percent of the kibbutz’s population was wiped out
The bodies of more than 100 people were discovered by volunteers in a single, small Israeli village Monday — including those of children — believed to have been killed by Hamas militants caught on camera.
The remains were discovered in Be’eri, or Bari, a kibbutz in southern Israel close to Gaza. It’s one of the villages Hamas militants invaded on Saturday as they began their attack on the country.
“Today the volunteers entered Kibbutz Bari and it is impossible to explain in words the terrible sights - some were adults, some were children. These are horrors that cannot be grasped in the mind or soul,” a spokesperson for Zaka search and rescue told IDF radio.
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That’s the same as saying that there can be no peace with Palestinians and the only way to resolve this is by hauling them all in trucks to crematoriums or the Jordanian border.
Not going to happen. Either of these “Solutions” from either side of the coin.
That’s like solving depression with suicide.
Everybody wants peace… via total victory.
It’s rare for sides to genuinely want peace through equality and forgiveness with bitter enemies.
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Click the linked article and read again what you are defending.
Do you live in North America? I’m native so if you are, get the fuck out of here, otherwise don’t protest if I fuck you up right? You’re in my ancestral home after all, and you’re the occupier here
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Calling dibs on this for my new prog band. Nobody else gets to take it. On second thought maybe it’s a better album title.
Your “homeland” has been bounced around so long that just about any ancient people in that region can claim it as theirs. Fuck your ancestors and your stone age feuds. If you really want this, go over there and join Hamas. I’m native blood living in North America, and I’m not about to start murdering people cause they took my ancestors home.
What if they took your home? Or your father’s home, your grandfather’s? All your families and neighbors? Then put you in MA open area concentration camp, controlled your food, water, electricity and movement, started destroying your sacred places, etc. Natives killed people for that, too.
So… exactly what they said by saying that they were Native American and living in North America? You’re splaining.
The colonists took their ancestor’s home as well as everyone of their same culture. Decades later, Americans forced Native Americans to move with the Trail of Tears, and then created half-independent reservations for them. They don’t have control over their food nor water nor electricity. And when haven’t Americans defiled sacred native places?
Native Americans could decide to overthrow state governments tomorrow and I could not truly fault them if civilians remained safe. I’m of the mind that the US deeply owes natives reparations and aid. While in the past some tribes did take up arms, others decided to adapt. The Seminoles in Florida don’t want the football team’s native American mascot changed because it is an homage treated with proper respect.
No it’s not the same because this just happened and is still happening. That’s what I’m saying the difference is. While they both matter, there’s a big difference between wrongs that were done to your ancestors, which is what they were talking about, and wrongs that are done to you and family you know personally. You don’t know really know until you’re in that position. So for those tribes that did take up arms, honestly I don’t blame them one bit.
Although obviously I’d probably condemn them if I lived in the same time period and saw them raping people and do the heinous shit Hamas did, from a historical standpoint, I can’t judge the natives’ armed struggle against the forces of colonialism.
I guess I took the view that ancestor vs direct family wrongs ultimately have the same effect, but I actually disagree with that now, thinking about it more. I get what you mean, from personal experience. An institution fucking over your great great grandfather is different than the institution fucking over your father.
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So the UN vote for the two state solution was illegal? I’ll go tell them a tankie said so.
Anybody who doesn’t agree with me is a tankie 😤
It deleted a post calling me bourgeoisie and using cheap strawman + ad-hominem demagogy so I bear his rhetoric abilities and stated facts in mind.
Not all tankies are wrong for being tankies.
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No, but you’re skipping a couple of steps between 1914 and 1947.
Either way, your point is short and vague.
“The only way to achieve piece is the end of Islam as a religion and its people as a culture. There can be no other way to achieve peace with the terrorists.” - how you sound right now.
Theres a pretty fucking huge distinction there. Zion != Judaism
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That isn’t what the person is saying. They’re saying peace is impossible unless Israel is dissolved and they all leave.