Yes, I’m the one in the group DM that turns the bubbles green, I’m sorry.

But other than that, I don’t hear many other reasons why people actually prefer iPhones over Androids. What other reasons are there?

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    OS updates. It’s frustrating to buy a top of the line android phone just for it to be forgotten by the manufacturer in 6-8 months.

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      This right here. Lifelong Android user that switched to the iPhone 14 and never looked back.

      Edit: iPhone 13, not 14, my bad.

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        My problem with Apple is that everything’s designed to interoperate with other Apple stuff, and nothing else. It feels like a walled garden that doesn’t just keep users in, but also keeps those of us out who might want to try a single Apple device without spending many thousands replacing our entire ecosystem.

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            Which gets even stupider when you realize apple is being stubborn and that is causing the issue

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              Absolutely, Apple is being resistant to RCS not because they think iMessage is superior but because they know it weakens their lock in power. I know I’m stating the obvious, but it just annoys me so much.

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    Google doesn’t have vision or taste in my opinion. They released a million messaging apps and STILL haven’t made a decent one. Its been how many years and they still use SMS on most androids and people have to rely on whatsapp, a Fcaebook app… now they’re releasing their new “standard” RCS which has competing versions some with end to end encryption by default and some without.

    They STILL don’t have a FaceTime alternative unless you use whatsapp…

    Google knows how to show ads and everything else has so little passion and vision i dont trust any of their services because they love to kill their products

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      I don’t even use any Apple products, but I still gotta agree with all this.

      How they didn’t do an iMessage style client better than Apple given the fact Hangouts was right there and superior in every way for so long is just… bleh.

      Google is losing it. Android is losing more nerd functionality and just copying iOS… but poorly. YouTube Music was better as Google Play Music. “Chats” was better as Hangouts. Where Google Fi at? Where Google Fibre gone? How’s Google+ going?

      Even their search results are mostly spam now.

      – Sent from my Pixel

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          This isn’t even enshittification, this is just Google still not having their shit together somehow after all these years

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      My counterpoint is that you have to use WhatsApp (I rather use Signal) because iMessage is Apple only. SMS and RCS are stupid. With Signal you can reach users of all devices. Having a messaging protocol that depends on the device used is stupid. And hopefully the EU can end the vendor lock in with messaging apps as well.

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        The fact that most people cant answer that is the problem. More people have android phones than iphones yet everyone knows FaceTime and no one knows a name for video calling on android phones. Android users dont have a culture to video calling where as people with iphones casually facetime eachother instead of doing phone calls.

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          Must be another American thing, like blue bubbles. I know plenty of people with iPhones and nobody uses facetime.

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      I understand the “taste” argument, but personally the goal of not having a corporation man-in-the-middle everything I do takes priority. I degoogle my phone to the best of my ability.

      Unfortunately, good vision and design takes funding, and there’s not a lot of money to be made from not taking advantage of users.

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        Apple’s hardware sales are about 70% of revenue, whereas Google’s are more like 10%. That’s a lot of funding that doesn’t have to come from user data.

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          Harvesting user data is a symptom, mitm and taking advantage of users is the root of the problem.

          Saying they don’t profit much from your data is like saying, “they only kick you in the nuts a little bit.”

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        That’s my belief. They don’t derive revenue from their users data, they get it through hardware sales and service subscriptions. Google has proven that they will monetize their users data in not so pleasant ways. I like Google products a lot but don’t use them because of their business practices overall

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          I’d rather trust the devil I know than the devil that’s better at hiding it’s evil. Apple isn’t some amazing perfect company that cares about you. Almost everything they do is anti-user, they just do it in a way that apple-only users think is a bonus because they’ve been forced into apple only products already. Not to mention their idiotic pricing.

          If you think apple is somehow “trustworthy” or not just as “evil” as Google in any way you’ve let their marketing team fool you.

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          assuming this is true, for me it’s not what they do with the data it’s just them collecting and keeping data they don’t need.

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          Contrary to Apply making products harder to repair, efficiently locking in to their ecosystem with no way out? Apple ducks consumers every day. I doubt they’d gather all your data for the purpose of utilizing storage space.

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    So generally I believe that Apple respects privacy more than google overall.

    That doesn’t mean Apple is some privacy beacon.

    But I have never had Apple randomly turn a setting on my phone on. Google got caught redhanded doing that. I had been using android for years until that incident.

    Apple I buy my phone. Google I am the product.

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    My Employer provides me with an iPhone for work use, primarily for remote access.

    I was enthusiastic about getting it, as a long time time android user I wanted to see what all the fuss was about, but having interacted with it frequently I really don’t get why people like it so much.

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      Completely agree.

      I have so much less control and navigating is not easier. I exclusively use it for work and as infrequently as possible.

      I’m consistently impressed with Samsung flagship and plan to remain there for the years to come.

      Different strokes for different folks, but this is where I land.

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      Same boat here. Some stuff is so counterintuitive that it’s frustrating. For example, I want to turn Bluetooth off, since it’s my work phone and I rarely need to connect headphones to it - why cant I turn it off properly through the quick access menu? Same with wifi, who tought it was a good idea to turn off bluetooth and wifi until the next day, with Bluetooth not even being properly turned off and instead just put into “do not pair” mode?

      The overall experience is smooth and everything feels uniformous and well engineered, but some design decisions werent made by actual humans I swear.

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    security updates

    They last (rocking a solid 4 year old phone)

    They are rugged

    The 3rd party apps are better

    The interoperability with other Apple products is great

    They are fast enough

    Great accessory market

    I’m familiar with the os

    The os works well enough for my needs

    Privacy - I am not the product

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        Why? Apple doesn’t directly make money off our data. They’re def the most privacy focused of the major options.

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      I agree except for third party apps. I used the iphone 12 for about a year before I switched back to android. Now I have an iPhone for my work phone and an android for my personal. Yes, some third party apps are better supported. But in my experience, it’s only the big name ones. When you start getting into “indie” apps, I think android wins. The number of time I have tried to do something with my iPhone only to discover I can’t is way too high.

      And it’s usually small things that add up over time. For instance, I use Alarmy for my alarm. With android, you can have the app lock down the phone. You must turn off the alarm the designed way (photos, barcodes, math, etc. It’s a really cool app and I highly recommend it). If you try to close it out, it’ll start itself again and start alarming. But with iPhone, I can close the app and the alarm goes away and won’t ring again. It made it pretty useless when I could still just dismiss the app anyway.

      Wanna torrent with your phone? Nope. Want a different keyboard? Sure, unless your typing in a password, then you must use IOS keyboard.

      Those are some notable examples I remember off the top of my head.

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        The keyboard for password limitation makes sense though as a 3rd party keyboard could act as a malicious keylogger. Forcing the native keyboard prevents that.

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    I bought one because I thought that the camera would be better, but I’m having a hard time telling the difference between phones these days.

    Also, Mini.

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    Integration. When I copy on my [Mac|iPhone|iPad|AppleTV] I can then paste on the other devices. When I enter the search field on the AppleTV my phone lets me type to the screen. I can transfer web pages from screen to screen if I wanna change where I’m browsing. All my devices work seamlessly with my AirPods. Etc.

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    Literally no reason other than blue bubbles.

    I was all ready to switch and then someone asked “so you don’t care about the blue bubbles eh?” and I chickened out and got yet another iphone

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    Smaller brands, those with fewer customers, also have lower repurchase rates. iPhone being such a large brand has a high repurchase rate. For most people who own an iPhone simply buying another iPhone is the most convenient option.

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      I mean, apple makes it really hard to leave their ecosystem… Once you’re in…

      It’s basically a non issue to go from eg Samsung to LG to Google. So it’s easier to “leave” those specific brands.

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      It’s purposely designed to get you in the ecosystem easily an comfortably and make your exit hard, so you stay and keep buying all gadgets from them

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        Yep the walled garden approach. But I guess my point is the bigger the garden the easier it is to find and the harder it is to exit.

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    Have you tried getting a human on the phone with any Google product ever ?

    Leave a comment if you have ever talked to a google/alphabet employee during their work hours about a problem that you have with a google/alphabet service or product ?

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    Because over the last 7 years my iPhones consistently delivered very good user experience, including migrating to the next device, which is completed in about an hour or two, and then there’s everything on the new device: apps, configuration and data.

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      Migrating to the next device is super simple and quick on Android. Samsung, as well as Google, have made that available for many years. User experience is subjective. I can’t stand the UI when I have to pick up an Apple device

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      Same deal with android phones these days as long as you actually sync all your apps, photos and contacts with your Google account.

      Even my external app licensing transferred successfully on my recent upgrade and it only took about 30 minutes.

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    My first smartphone was an iPhone 3GS. Android wasn’t really an competitive option yet. Since then, I’ve stayed on iOS because I already had purchased apps I’d loose if I switched. (Remember when you bought mobile games, instead of endlessly paying for them with in-game currency?) Vendor lock-in is real.

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      My guest smartphone was also the 3GS. I switched to android because it didn’t have copy and paste or flash.

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    What’s this about bubbles? I never heard anything about it before until last week, and it didn’t make sense.

    Android user.

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      It’s an American thing. If you live anywhere else probably use WhatsApp so you don’t have that problem.

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        To be truthful the FCC should have forced apple to move off iMessages. Especially due to them registering numbers which they shouldn’t have control over. Friend got a new number recently when they changed providers, the new number of course didn’t work for any messages that came from iPhones because it was previously used by an Apple user.

        So essentially someone buys a service from Company A. Puts it in their hardware from Company B, yet company C is dictating their ability to recieve messages. The user did this ~June 15th, didnt figure out iPhones weren’t able to send her messages to June 20th. So her birthday was June 18th, the same day as fathers day. Most plans almost fell through because her dads iPhone just lies and says the iMessage is read immediately.

        There really should just be a class action lawsuit against Apple that requires them to stop hijacking services from users that are not their customers.

        Sidenote: Apple’s first solution they provide for this is to move your sim card to one of their products to deregister from their services. That is so fucking disgusting to me. Thankfully the site now has a “No longer have your old device option” to de-register from the servoce you never signed up for… on a product you never owned.

        …end rant, sry