• ampren7a@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    The only thing that matters in these situations is the center of balance of the players and the part of the body which they use to control the inbound pass. But this, when both players are facing the opposite direction of the goal, is ridiculous.

  • Hech15@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    It’s offside? Like it’s like a millimeter off but offside is an offside it would be a wrong decision if it was given a goal

    • t3rrone@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      It’s more about the questionable accuracy from this computer rendered image and further more about how the frame to check the offside is decided.

      What if they chose a frame too early or late, which could make the difference of being off- or onside in this case.

      The original purpose of the offside rule is being completely dismantled.

  • ACMBruh@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Watching this with my Juventini cousins who are pro-var and they are fuming lmao

      • prnfce@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        The way I see it VAR can (and likely has) be used as a tool to allow more corruption into the sport, by giving people time to decide whether to intervene or not, to officiate in whichever way, gives the outcome they want the highest likelihood to happen, I cannot be pro VAR for this reason alone.

        Then you add in the fact goals are scored and people aren’t celebrating, taking joy and excitement out of the sport cannot be a good thing.

    • _deep_blue_@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      It’s so tough because the whole point of VAR in relation to offsides is to be able to determine if something is offside or it isn’t, which in 99%+ of cases you can see. There are these occasions where something is technically offside, like with a sliver of someone’s boot or a tiny part of their shoulder, but it doesn’t feel like it’s really in the spirit of the rule. In those cases though you can’t say that you’ll allow it because offside is meant to be a black or white decision, and if you let these minuscule infringements go you then need to decide where the line is again.

      • Lutzelien@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        I remember pre-var there was “same hight”

        This is definitely same hight, no offside

      • Queeg_500@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        There really needs to be a buffer zone for offsides calls.

        There is no skill here, the defender didn’t make a conscious attempt to play the attacker offside by 5mm, it’s just pure luck.

        I’d argue that any advantage an attacker gets inside 30cm is negligible, and hardly worth all this effort to penalise.

        At, it feels like we roll the dice to see if a goal stands based on an offside call that neither player knew anything about.

        • TooRedditFamous@alien.topB
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          1 year ago

          So that just moves the line 30cm. It doesn’t solve the problem. Imagine this exact same picture except Kean is 31cm past the last defender, the line is drawn at 30cm from the last man. Same problem

          Sure in this case that would make this one definitively onside, but like I said there will be a time when a striker is ~30cm past the last defender and the line drawing becomes an issue again

          • Queeg_500@alien.topB
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            1 year ago

            But at least you can say he was well offside, and it would be much easier to take. It changes the narrative and players/fans will feel much less hard done by with tight calls.

            "if my team had a goal disallowed because the was 31cm offside, it would be much easier to take.

      • berbakay@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        The rule needs to be adapted so that every time someone is called offside everyone can agree that the striker was gaining an advantage.

  • bagh0lder10@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Idiotic. How do they even know they have the exact frame correct for when the pass was made?

    • Robert_Baratheon__@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      I still think this is against the spirit of the law. The offside rule is not supposed to be affected by millimeters. It’s supposed to make sure someone’s not waiting behind the defense for the ball

      • flingerdu@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        You have to draw the line somewhere (pun intended) so you’ll still have those „millimeter decisions“ at some other place.