While I understand the lack of proper open source alternatives for some software like AutoCAD and After Effects, it always felt weird that the best IDEs/Text Editors are made by big corporations, because you know, these are the tools programmers use.
I tried vim/neovim, which I enjoy using, but I’ve come to prefer visual editors instead of text based. Kate looks promising, and I’m willing to contribute to it in my free time, but it just has that “amateurish” feel to it that I can’t explain.
Anyone aware of other alternatives?
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Vscodium
You don’t need that when you use NixOS 😋
Any idea how well vscodium runs on macos? Is the performance worde than normal vscode?
It’s the same code as VScode, just without telemetry, so probably the same or marginally better
I use Codium on both PopOS and MacOSi, it’s a bit slow to start, but performance is good, but I don’t know how it compares to stock VSCode since I never tested it. But overall I’m very happy with it.
I tried both and it’s the same
As one of the Pulsar team, thanks for the support! Always nice to see it being recommended on these kinds of threads.
I would suggest adding some screenshots to your website
We are going through a bit of a rework for the website and docs site as a whole but yeah, I agree that we should have some.
Oh nice! I was super excited to find your project, was not about to let MS drive me into their arms and couldn’t find anything else that met my needs.
Thanks for your work!
Is there support for serving it out to a browser similar to vscode.dev? I’ve been looking into having something like that, and I didn’t find anything that was similar.
No, it would require an awful lot of development, there are quite a few native modules. For a browser ide i would check out phcode.dev which is a development of Adobe’s brackets editor.
Thanks. I remember a while ago I was looking at Atom and Brackets. But I see both of those have been put down. At least the linux version has as far as the latter is concerned.
Atom was really glitchy for me when I tried it a few years ago. Has it improved?
I’ve used Atom for years and rarely had issues. Maybe a specific plugin was causing you a problem? Either way, I’d say give Pulsar a try if you like that type of interface.
I’ve been keeping a list of alternatives for a while now that I really like:
- Pulsar - An actively developed fork of Atom once Microsoft killed it off. Disclosure: I’m on the Pulsar team so I’m more than a little biased here but if you want to get involved we are always after people who want to contribute and we have a very friendly and active Discord server. First thing we did was re-implement the package backend and migrate it so we were able to keep the thousands and thousands of community packages for download.
- Lite-XL - A really lightweight and fast editor written in C and Lua that is very actively developed. I use this on some less powerful systems.
- Lapce - Another lightweight and very fast editor written in Rust and is in the middle of moving to their own UI framework. Not that extensible at the moment but supports LSP plugins.
Then for terminal based editors I really like Helix which is vim-like but uses a selection -> action model (like Kakoune). I really like it because it requires almost no configuration.
Thanks for your work on Pulsar. Atom was my go to simple editor before MS killed it off. I’m still fuming now. I really need to try Pulsar :). Been using Kate for now.
Playing around with lite-xl, thanks for the recommendation. Lacks many features for now, but seems to have a huge potential.
I see a lot of potential in Lapce, but sadly the extensions (which are necessary, since it has basically no ootb language support) are very poorly maintained and outdated. Last I used it the Javascript/Typescript support was simply not sufficient for active use. I am very hopeful for Lapce’s future though!
Edit: Just checked and the TS/JS extension is still on version
2022.11.0. The code formatting still doesn’t work (for me) :(lite-xl looks promising
the main missing feature imho : being able to search/filter settings, keybindings in particular
Lite-XL looks really cool, it’s awesome to finally find a modern editor that is not using webview bloat for the UI.
VSCodium. Basically ungoogled-chromium but VS Code and Microsoft.
Lunarvim
Actually a pretty good on-the-go alternative to GUI IDEs. Always using it to quickly edit configs and scripts.
I am using it, as an “IDE” for everything.
How does it compare to similar stuff like AstroNvim, SpaceVim, NVChad, etc? I’m trying to choose one but having difficulties 😥
I find it significantly better than SpaceVim as they’re not relying on EOL’d packages and customization is a bit easier. Defaults are pretty sane and most needed plugins are quick to setup.
Thank you, gonna give it a try! Since I’m new to nvim it would feel good to still have that “semi IDE” feeling, but the ammount of options felt overwhelming 😅
No problem! That’s definitely an easy problem to have with (neo)vim.
I think you are doing nothing wrong with choosing Lunarvim. Anyway, If you ever are unhappy with it, you can pretty much just create your own neovim config.
It’s got a pretty good community, you always find some help online. It comes per default only with “needed” plugins, which makes it a pretty nice IDE already. If you ever need more plugins, it’s also not complicated to install them,
Good community is always a plus for any project. Thanks for the recommendation!
This looks great. I’ve been using Spacevim for years but will check this out
Astrovim too.
You could try VSCodium. VS code but less spyware-y
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I am aware of this one, but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I think I’ll start using Kate, and contribute whatever features I’m missing if I can.
Why? It’s completely open source.
I wouldn’t exchange my neovim config for anything. After getting used to how vim works and installing all the plugins I need, I feel like this is my favourite editor. It looks nice and I enjoy using keyboard shortcuts over using a mouse.
That said, the day I lose my neovim config is the day I die. If it disappears I’m doomed
People are writing different opinions, but you are right, best IDEs are comercial software.
I think it is just because it takes a lot of time and effort on boring stuff to make this tools smooth. Generally in open source we work on fun parts and leave those boring last 20% unfinished, which is ok with me.l
Lapce is an alternative that you can try, though it’s self-described as “pre-alpha”.
Why on Earth did I read this comment? 🥲 This app is so painfully fast and crisp! And it has Vim and SSH out of the box. And its own plugin marketplace… Now I have no choice but to suffer every time I open VSCode(ium) in hope that development continues and soon I will have the thing to ditch it for and finally get rid of my allergies to Electron.
Neovim + LunarVim is most of what I need for software engineering out of the box. It even has debugger support. Plus it’s way faster than VSCode and terminal friendly.
Yea, I also use neovim with NvChad config. Even use NVim in my termux.
Maybe codium will be what your looking for
I have VSCodium installed via flatpak. Works perfectly.
Edit: has open-source extensions too.
Vscodium or Geany
My first comment would be that free software made by a corporation is still free software. Like Eclipse, which was originally made by IBM and is a huge ecosystem, especially for “java and friends.” So, there is nothing wrong with VS Code(ium). It is a “proper” open source editor and a very good one (I don’t use it though - I prefer EMACS).
As for community-base alternatives (which is probably what you mean), you could consider kdevelop or pulsar. There are other alternatives which are equally good and surely one of them will fit your purpose. You mentioned Kate and I can’t find anything wrong with it, especially once you start installing the plugins that are relevant to what you do. Same with Gedit.
