Oh cool, you’ll be able to answer my question! Whenever I ask, I just get downvoted. But you must know, since you’re making a very clear and explicit accusation, and quoting genocide experts! I’m sure you won’t just downvote or ban me!
What is Israel doing that qualifies as genocide?
I understand they’re behaving badly in many ways. It’s easy to argue that they’re ooppressing the Palestinians. They’ve almost certainly committed war crimes. They’re blockading and suppressing them.
But I keep seeing this claim that they’re committing genocide. How? Are they systematically exterminating the Palestinian people? For Palestinians killed by Israel since 2000, I get figures from the high hundreds all the way to a couple thousand. That’s not a small number, but there are 5+ million Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. For comparison, there are about 2.5 million people in Chicago, and since 2000 there have been way more than 2000 people killed by gun violence. If they’re trying to exterminate the Palestinians, they’re doing a piss-poor job of it: average Americans do a better job of killing one another than the Israelis do at killing their supposed targets for genocide.
Are there secret death camps? Gas chambers? Shooting squads? Einsatzgruppen? Are there policies of mass sterilization?
Of course, there’s other definitions of genocide that don’t involve killing! Forcibly destroying a culture by other means can qualify as genocide using the UN definitions. Are the Israelis mass-converting the Palestinians to Judaism? Are they teaching them Hebrew? Or forcing them en masse into secular schools?
It’s not like people just started calling it ‘genocide’ because that’s a big scary word that gets people’s attention, right? There must be some basis for it!
They forcibly removed people of a certain race from their homes, restricted them to a small area, prevented them leaving, then made the area smaller. Then they cut off all their methods of communication outside the area of their confine. Then started indiscriminately murdering civilians and children, including bombing hospitals, and refugee camps. They also instructed civilians to flee to a certain places away from where they were bombing, so that they could avoid being bombed…and then bombed those places they said to flee to.
Literally correct. Behaving badly is not automatically genocidal.
I’d address the obvious omissions in your reply, but this seems like the wrong venue for actual discussion. But no, confining people is not genocide. Cutting off communication is not genocide. Engaging in acts of war that kill civilians is not genocide. Genocide has a specific definition, and none of the items you list qualify. That doesn’t mean that Israel is blameless, and they deserve a hell of a lot of criticism, but they have not committed or attempted to commit genocide.
That’s it you solved it! We can safely ignore what’s going on and Israel is totes cool because it’s not actually genocide! Pack it up boys we’re done here, world peace achieved!
Oh cool, you’ll be able to answer my question! Whenever I ask, I just get downvoted. But you must know, since you’re making a very clear and explicit accusation, and quoting genocide experts! I’m sure you won’t just downvote or ban me!
What is Israel doing that qualifies as genocide?
I understand they’re behaving badly in many ways. It’s easy to argue that they’re ooppressing the Palestinians. They’ve almost certainly committed war crimes. They’re blockading and suppressing them.
But I keep seeing this claim that they’re committing genocide. How? Are they systematically exterminating the Palestinian people? For Palestinians killed by Israel since 2000, I get figures from the high hundreds all the way to a couple thousand. That’s not a small number, but there are 5+ million Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. For comparison, there are about 2.5 million people in Chicago, and since 2000 there have been way more than 2000 people killed by gun violence. If they’re trying to exterminate the Palestinians, they’re doing a piss-poor job of it: average Americans do a better job of killing one another than the Israelis do at killing their supposed targets for genocide.
Are there secret death camps? Gas chambers? Shooting squads? Einsatzgruppen? Are there policies of mass sterilization?
Of course, there’s other definitions of genocide that don’t involve killing! Forcibly destroying a culture by other means can qualify as genocide using the UN definitions. Are the Israelis mass-converting the Palestinians to Judaism? Are they teaching them Hebrew? Or forcing them en masse into secular schools?
It’s not like people just started calling it ‘genocide’ because that’s a big scary word that gets people’s attention, right? There must be some basis for it!
They forcibly removed people of a certain race from their homes, restricted them to a small area, prevented them leaving, then made the area smaller. Then they cut off all their methods of communication outside the area of their confine. Then started indiscriminately murdering civilians and children, including bombing hospitals, and refugee camps. They also instructed civilians to flee to a certain places away from where they were bombing, so that they could avoid being bombed…and then bombed those places they said to flee to.
Totally not genocide. You fucking horses ass.
Don’t forget about taking almost all their water. And leaving only shitty water for them to use.
Literally correct. Behaving badly is not automatically genocidal.
I’d address the obvious omissions in your reply, but this seems like the wrong venue for actual discussion. But no, confining people is not genocide. Cutting off communication is not genocide. Engaging in acts of war that kill civilians is not genocide. Genocide has a specific definition, and none of the items you list qualify. That doesn’t mean that Israel is blameless, and they deserve a hell of a lot of criticism, but they have not committed or attempted to commit genocide.
That’s it you solved it! We can safely ignore what’s going on and Israel is totes cool because it’s not actually genocide! Pack it up boys we’re done here, world peace achieved!