• dohpaz42@lemmy.world
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      I hope you don’t live in America. You know, the country literally built by immigrants, who stole the land from the natives, and then also raped and killed a lot of them. That’d be pretty hypocritical and ignorant of you if you were an American.

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        As stated in another comment, we conquered. All in all it’s hard to find a single country out there not built that way. And lots of immigrants is not lots of illegal aliens. If you want to come in you should have to follow the same rules. Otherwise don’t complain if you get deported.

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              Yeah, I give individuals leeway when it comes to breaking the “law” because they’re often just trying to survive.

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                  Having “law enforcement” rife with literal gangs, selectively enforcing the laws, and writing laws that benefit a few wealthy individuals at the expense of everyone else is how you create people who don’t respect your imaginary made up bullshit laws.

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                    The cops don’t make the laws, they just enforce the ones written by the people we elect. Don’t like it? Get elected and change it.

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                  Good.

                  Fuck the “law”, a set of rules designed to keep the power of the elites at the people’s expense.

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                    And who decides the good law and the bad law? The only ones allowed to do that are the courts, not the court of public opinion. Not to mention yours is not a popular opinion.

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          It’s a shame we can’t deport people like you. Surely that’d make room for more immigrants to come in legally.

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          I hope you don’t mind the migrants coming in and conquering you then, what’s fair is fair, right?

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          You say that as if conquest isn’t vastly worse than demographic migration.

          You’re literally trying to justify why Americans should get to stay by pointing out that they are even less deserving for having arrived by force instead of by mere migration.

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          They arent immigrants, then. Theyre micro conquerors.

          And hey! They dont rape, murder, and pillage to get their land! So theyre already better than you.

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      Think about how you’d feel if your own country was in a shit situation economically, and wasnt safe anymore, and then someone told you to go the fuck home… that street goes both ways, and could be a reality.

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        Of course. There’s no way any of them could bother fighting to make their country better. Better to let them take what made their country bad to a new one.

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          Easy to say knowing your home is a safe place to be. Also really racist and presumptuous to assume that someone wanting better opportunity and safety is by default dangerous and/or always going to be poor.

          And extremely ironic to say that from a country that was founded on the idea of coming here for better opportunities.

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              Dude, there were already people here when we showed up. We killed them and gave them diseases and stole their land. How’s that for coming here legally? So arrogant.

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                  Do you just enjoy being obtuse and trying to argue the exact opposite of what someone else says, regardless of whether you’re correct or not?

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                    Yes, and they’re trying their best. That’s why they need to go back. Honestly the worst immigrants are the ones who refuse to assimilate and form their own insular enclaves. That’s how you get no go zones and terrorists.

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                  By this logic, you would absolutely respect an immigrant came into your house, beat the fuck out of you, and claimed it was theirs. That’s okay to you, right?

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        Just because you have different ideas than I do doesn’t mean I’m wrong. We can both have opposing views which have basises in reality. Just depends on how you look at the world.

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          You can be a self-center, shitty being without any empathy or knowledge, it doesn’t make your opinion a valid one.

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        Trump was a retard from the beginning. I was against him and Hilary both. No good choice.