• LemmysMum@lemmy.worldOP
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    Yes, life stops growing when the resources run out. Just like capitalism, just like cancer.

    The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago, second best time is now. Go plant the seeds of a better education. Have a good life.

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      I say it one more time: capitalist models expect limitless growth. That’s the problem since there is no limitless growth. It is this discrepancy of expectation and reality that makes capitalism so destructive.

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          So you agree that we need an economic and social system that doesn’t? Your pedantry that life isn’t eternal is way beyond the point since for all intents and purposes, it is as good as eternal

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            So you agree that we need an economic and social system that doesn’t?

            Yes.

            Your pedantry that life isn’t eternal is way beyond the point since for all intents and purposes, it is as good as eternal

            Holy fucking shit, you got it! You got the point!

            Reductio ad absurdum

            To reduce to absurdity.

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              So you make fun of the guy changing capitalism to life? Sorry, I misread it.

              But even then you should read a book. Many people compare capitalism to nature since Darwin and stuff. That’s not reductio ad absurdum but a naturalistic fallacy. That’s why I didn’t get your point.

              That makes your meme a strawman since you attack something that no one said. The argument is “capitalism is natural” not “all life will end eventually”.

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                That makes your meme a strawman since you attack something that no one said.

                Impossible, that’s literally exactly what I did. I edited someone else’s comment in a way that points out the shaky logic it’s built on. There is no way to be any less of a strawman.

                That’s not reductio ad absurdum but a naturalistic fallacy.

                No it’s not, go read.

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

                And stop incorrectly using the word strawman. You made so much progress, don’t regress now that you’ve reached your next misunderstanding.

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                  I thought you made the “capitalism to life”-change to point out that not only capitalism but all life will end eventually so it’s ok.

                  And stop incorrectly using the word strawman.

                  Well, wikipedia says:

                  A straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction.

                  That’s what you did. The argument was “capitalism (and growth) is natural” and you made it into “life isn’t limitless because there is no eternity” and you’re still not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction. The former is a common argument, the latter is just stupid.

                  You made so much progress, don’t regress now that you’ve reached your next misunderstanding.

                  Don’t talk down to me! Try to understand my point or fuck off!

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                    “capitalism (and growth) is natural”

                    Where is this ever stated or implied?

                    Don’t talk down to me! Try to understand my point or fuck off!

                    It’s not my comprehension that’s lacking. So as you say:

                    Try to understand my point or fuck off!