• NoiseColor@startrek.website
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    If you ever talk about an international community, these are the only countries that actually COMMUNE. Almost all the rest are too involved with themselves to have a diplomatic strategy beyond their narrow short-term self interest. That’s also why that’s the only international community that matters. That’s not a tone deaf world view, that’s the reality.

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      No, these are the only countries that destabilised entire continents to get what they wanted in the last few centuries and now they wash their hands off of them. The countries that are left behind are still trying to clean the shit up the West has created.

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        They exist, many organizations exist, but they are only a collection of countries each looking for its own short sighted benefits.

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            Sure they do, but I’m not into nitpicking specific situations or argue about edge cases.

            They don’t really like each other, mostly they see themselves as competitors and their treaties are situational, worth nothing except in the best of times when everything is going well for everyone.

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              Edge cases? Are you serious? Since when does the U.S. give a shit about anyone but the U.S.?

              And saying that the U.S. respects its treaties shows a laughable ignorance of history.

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      You mean the only ones you hear about communing as a westerner. Pretty much every geographical region has political and economic collaborative institutions for long term stability and growth, and then there’s also things like BRICS that’s not just bound by geography. The BRI is a plan so incredibly long term election-based democracies could never even dream of it, that spans East, Central and West Asia, and is economic, political, social, infrastructural etc etc. Just because you never bothered to broaden your horizon doesn’t mean the entire fucking rest of the world doesn’t collaborate with each other just like Europe and western countries in general do.

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        That part about brics was the funniest shit. Let me know when they get past their infighting to actually do something other than dream big

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        No, I don’t mean what you wrote. Yes, I know there are many organizations in the world.

        BRICS? LOLOLOLOL. Do you know anything about BRICS? If you want to broaden YOUR horizon, check which countries are in BRICS and the level of cooperation they have between them. BRICS is a joke. 5 countries, each pulling in its own direction, each too busy trying to deal with it’s own national mess. They meet PR once a year so they look important. Two of them are absolutist dictatorships to the point that one leader can’t even travel to visit the other ones. Two of them are even attacking each other.

        Are you effing kidding me!?? Broaden my horizon? Bro!?

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        a plan so incredibly long term election-based democracies could never even dream of it

        What types of democracies aren’t election based?