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    Here’s a little tip for you: If you use “CCP” you’re basically identifying yourself as an ignoramus whose opinions on the topic can be safely ignored. After all if you can’t get the name of an institution correct, what are the odds that you got things that require genuine knowledge and nuance right?

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      If you use “CCP” you’re basically identifying yourself as an ignoramus

      Oh I’m sorry, of course I meant 中國共產黨.

      You seem to have overlooked I actually praised the Communist Party of one of the Chinas in my comment.

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        Or you could use the proper English initialization from their official English name: Communist Party of China. But hey, why not remain an ignoramus and snark instead?

        You seem to have overlooked I actually praised the Communist Party of one of the Chinas in my comment.

        I didn’t. It’s why I told you instead of rolling my eyes and ignoring you.

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          So I bothered to look up 中國共產黨 to see if your claim that CPC is proper and CCP isn’t is true, and honestly it has no merit. Being pedantic about how best to translate it into English doesn’t make you smart or more knowledgeable. Internet propagandists like you for the Chinese government (oh, you’d probably insist only “government of China” is correct) tend to use these kinds of childish irrelevant arguments to deflect attention away from things that matter. I’ve seen similar stupid arguments in official Chinese state propaganda.

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            The OFFICIAL NAME of the Party in English is “The Communist Party of China”.

            Not “the correct translation”. The OFFICIAL NAME.

            It follows, incidentally, the same pattern of naming in a whole bunch of other countries. The Communist Party of Canada, not The Canadian Communist Party. The Communist Party of Cuba, not The Cuban Communist Party. The Communist Party of Korea, not the Korean Communist Party. Etc. etc. etc.

            But hey, you don’t have to believe me. Just go to their official site: http://cpc.people.com.cn/. Then try http://ccp.people.com.cn/ and see where that gets you.

            Getting a name correct is the very most basic element that gets you credibility. If you can’t do that, anything else you say on the subject is highly suspect.

            Consider how much credibility I’d have if I babbled about Germany as “The German Federal Republic” (or, more extremely, translated it like you did and came up with “The Dutch’s Land’s Federal Republic”) or about the USA as “The American United States”. Extrapolate.

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              They are not credible, and are basically what I call wordsmith weasels. I advise you to stop wasting time with these trolls, honestly. If someone like me from India can get it right, anyone should be able to. The key lies in moral integrity. They lack that.

              The downvote patterns are observable in this thread, as are their argumentations like quoting not the institution (CPC) but a Western encyclopedia like Britannica as an authority on CPC. This reeks of their Western chauvinist attitude towards rest of the world, which I want to see dying off of this planet.

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        Buddy, there are about 170+ countries (only 14 or 15 do not) that recognise only one China and one Chinese government. That is the sole official recognition. Taiwan is a province of China, which PRC respects and gives ample independence.

        Tell me when Taiwan has an embassy of any country on earth, that Taiwan is a dejure sovereign country. Spoiler: it has none.

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          I wouldn’t call China’s stance towards Taiwan “respect”. Even so, I don’t have an opinion whether it’s part of China or not. Perhaps only Taiwanese people are qualified to say.

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            Your or my opinion does not matter on China’s stance towards Taiwan. Even the Kuomintang nationalist party itself, that CPC defeated a century ago, now wishes for reunification of mainland and Taiwan. DPP is USA’s puppet at the moment.