• Baŝto@discuss.tchncs.de
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    6 months ago

    You compare a city center with an interchange close to the city limit. You will see stuff like that in Europe too, especially motorways that separate cities from their sprawling neighbors. Houston has interchanges that look way more problematic.

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    6 months ago

    The really fun bit is that the US doesn’t need more room to house people. There are more vacant apartments than there are homeless people as is, but nobody can pay the rents.

    • Katlah@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      6 months ago

      How so? It’s showing that with all that space the interchange is taking up you can house 30000+ people.

      • Chev@lemmy.world
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        6 months ago

        There are enough highway interchanges in Italy too.

        Not every ground that is suitable for streets, is also suitable for living.

        The cost between those both are not comparable.

        Usage of land is (at least in Italy) carefully determined to fulfill societies needs. Most people prefer to live somewhere, where infrastrcture already exists instead of building up a ghost town without anything nearby.

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    6 months ago

    This isn’t a great argument. There is so much open undeveloped space in the US that could be used to house people. This interchange isn’t taking space away from anyone.

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          6 months ago

          What do you propose they do with that space? Adding literally any way to access it necessarily interferes with the roads around it and makes the entire project pointless.

          Even ignoring that obvious problem, you can’t use it for housing since there’s nothing there and it’s surrounded by high-speed traffic. Can’t build shops or other amenities there since nobody stops and it’s surrounded by high-speed traffic. You definitely can’t put livestock there.

          • BradleyUffner@lemmy.world
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            6 months ago

            That wasn’t the argument I was responding to. The initial argument was that the interchange was taking away space that could be used to house people. Simply replacing the interchange with housing would cause even larger problems than developing the empty land around it.

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      6 months ago

      This interchange isn’t taking space away from anyone.

      depends on how myopic is your definition of “anyone” is

      “space” isn’t for humans only. roads are taking monstrous amounts of space

      • GBU_28@lemm.ee
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        6 months ago

        Humans won the planet, they can do as they please. (Including damn themselves, but all belongs to us)

          • GBU_28@lemm.ee
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            6 months ago

            I’m not being edgy, the planet and all consequences belong to us.

            Is there another dominant species around I haven’t met yet?

            • cinnamonTea@lemmy.ml
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              6 months ago

              I’d say you’re technically correct in saying that we can do everything, whereas the other point is that since other species are also affected by our decisions we shouldn’t

    • lntl@lemmy.ml
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      6 months ago

      Go tell that to the people displaced by Robert Moses.