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      5 months ago

      You can’t just accuse strangers online of having a mental illness!

      checks OP’s post history

      Ok, I’ll let this one slide

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        The most ironic thing is their username, like being an incel is not king shit, but being an incel and naming yourself king is prime incel shit, lol.

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          I am not a incel, but enjoy your delusions.👍

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    as it’s often very unreliable.

    Compared to what more reliable alternative? If you’re faced with attempting to understand a mental or emotional condition are you going to turn to tarot cards, astrology, or “bad spirits” instead?

    You’re dismissing the best known mental science of today. What does that leave you with instead to use?

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      If you had a question and two false answers, you got unsolved question.

      In simpler terms we don’t have to assume the answers based on science.

      In my opinion the core psychology problems might be solved in 10-30 years specifically with the evolution of AI which would make it easier to find bad un-reproducible studies.

      Hopefully we will see better diagnosis also due to technology.

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        If you had a question and two false answers, you got unsolved question.

        You’re a binary values test on the analysis of emotional behavior? That’s like measuring the speed of sound with how many oranges are on a tree. It just doesn’t work that way. You’re saying that because psychology doesn’t produce perfect answers all the time, it should be disregarded every time. Again, what produces more accurate answers more of the time? If you’ve got a system, please let us know, but the state of the art of understanding human behavior today is modern Psychology. Is it perfect? Heck no! However, its better than anything else humanity has come up with to-date. It also is helpful for millions of people around the world. I would encourage you to keep at it if you’re having difficulties which psychology can address. Psychology is right a lot of times, but many times not on the first, second, or third try.

        In simpler terms we don’t have to assume the answers based on science.

        There’s another field which is similar: Economics

        Like psychology its impossible to create conditions to purely test economic theories because of confounding variables. Application of economic theories are oftentimes product wildly predicted outcomes. Does this mean we dismiss economists as witch doctors (well, some do) and we abandon the hundreds of years of data that produces the body of knowledge we call Economics? No, we don’t. We continue to observe and apply actions, and try to make economic theories and applications more accurate. Economics is right a lot of times, but many times not on the first, second, or third try.

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    I’ll go further: until we develop a true, general artificial intelligence that is significantly superior to the human mind, psychology CAN NEVER be reliable.

    It’s just a basic principle of complexity. The human mind is, by definition, too complex to be reliably understood by another human mind. The system doing the understanding can’t possibly comprehend an equally complex system to itself. I’m pretty sure that would LITERALLY VIOLATE MULTIPLE LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS AND COMPUTATION.

    The only sane course is to literally abandon the field. Any result we achieve, in terms of studying our ourselves, will always be too inaccurate to be useful, and almost invariably dangerous and harmful.

    Our goal should be to finish building General Artificial Intelligence. Yes, I’m aware that it might decide to kill us. I’m okay with that. I actually prefer that outcome. I think we’re a toxic species. I’m not a religious man, but I think it’s no coincidence that almost all major religions agree that we’re fundamentally and inextricably flawed.

    The best thing we could do for the planet is to build a better, more intelligent race of beings, so we can then be killed off by them. Good riddance. But, ya know, they might analyze us really accurately, before sweeping us out of existence. That’d be kinda neat.

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    Psychology is not a science at all. The most famous psychologist in the world today believes in magic(as part of the therapy) and somehow his rivals still manage to outcrazy him.