Hello, I started to experience a problem with Mull and Duolingo (and also bromite) that started about 1 month ago.

Basically Duolingo tells me that my browser is not supported but it worked perfectly fine before. Anyone experienced this issue? I can’t find an issue on mull repo apparently about this specific issue. Dunno if it is something about resisting fingerprint but I wonder why that happens…

  • stoly@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    77
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    5 months ago

    I pretty much instantly lose respect for people who design sites to only support specific browsers. With the exception of Firefox, it’s all Chromium anyway so they don’t really need to worry about it. This isn’t like when Internet Explorer was a thing and broke web pages.

    • ErwinLottemann@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      28
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      5 months ago

      i guess it’s not about the actual site not supporting some browser. it’s usually about not wanting to deal with users that have problems with the page in some obscure browser caused by some random plugin or something but the user blaming it on the service. or because of tracking.

      • brianary@startrek.website
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        23
        ·
        5 months ago

        So do feature testing, not user-agent sniffing! For Pete’s sake, it’s 2024! That’s been the best practice for decades!

        • ErwinLottemann@feddit.de
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          5 months ago

          that’s not the point. the user is going to open a ticket because something does not work because their browser does not support it. and it’s way easier to tell them to install ‘this browser’ than to install ‘a browser that supports a specific feature’. most of the users don’t even know what a browser is…

          • HumanPerson@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            5 months ago

            Ok, but why not do both? If the browser supports all needed features, then let the user continue. If not, recommend list of supported browsers with small text at the bottom describing what feature is needed for technical users.

          • reddig33@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            5 months ago

            Updating to the browsers listed isn’t going to solve a problem like the one you describe. Extensions and plug ins are still a thing in modern browsers.

        • toastal@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          5 months ago

          I like that Google is always the one recommending this while also being the one that does some of the most obvious user agent sniffing

      • stoly@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        5 months ago

        I used to work for a web hosting company and have seen so many horror cases that I agree with you that this is what is happening. I also think it’s kinda lazy to just say that they won’t support what people are using because it’s hard. Even 5 - 7 years ago, this was much harder than it is now.

    • gramie@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      5 months ago

      I’m working on an application right now that requires the ability to load and save data to the local file system. Firefox does not allow this, whereas Chrome does. The whole application runs from the local file system, so I don’t think there is much of a security issue.

      But I actually do is test for the existence of the function to open the save or load dialog. That way, if Firefox does implement it, Firefox will work as well.

      • emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        5 months ago

        the ability to load and save data to the local file system

        That sounds like a huge security risk. I’m surprised any browser allows it.

        • gramie@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          5 months ago

          All it can do is open a dialogue to load or save a file. The action must also be initiated by the user (e.g. clicking a button). It’s not randomly allowing a page to load and save on its own.

        • gramie@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          5 months ago

          It is simply an HTML page with local JavaScript files. Nothing else. It has to run on as many platforms as possible, and be totally isolated from the outside world.