Got suckered into helping a non-profit with their web presence, and of course, it was a Wordpress site (at least it wasn’t a Facebook page).

Everything about WP is mildly infuriating at best, just regular infuriating at worst. Everything. If you know, you know. It’s like they tried so hard to make it “easy” to use that it went full circle into a fuster-cluck of unintuitive and clunky everything.

With every facet of the experience being an upsell, is there a tier where it’s just not horrible to use?

Specific examples:

  • WYSIWYG editor doesn’t match the preview
  • Chasing the scroll point in the outline when moving elements
  • Can’t edit block properties after they’re added
  • Everything is a damn upsell
    • Want to remove the Wordpress footer? Upgrade to a paid plan (does not specify tier)
    • Okay, I’ve updated to a paid plan that meets our needs. Please remove the footer please.
    • “Oh, you have to have a plan two tiers up to do that”
  • General clunkyness
  • Only supports Apple map embeds which cannot find any of the addresses I need to enter
    • Cannot embed a Google map properly (doesn’t support percentage widths for the iframe element so I can’t make it responsive)
  • Changing the column widths on a layout grid block never releases the slider, so you have to mash keys until something else selects that locks it roughly where you want it.
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    5 months ago

    Yeah, you’d think. But I’m not expecting it to be straightforward or easy (if it is, then yay). I’m definitely going to look into it.

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      5 months ago

      Nah, I doubt it would be hard. Luckily there is a central body governing this and saying what they can, can’t, must and mustn’t do.

      One complication is if they recently bought the domain. I think you need to wait like 90 days or so after a domain purchase or transfer to be able to transfer it.

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        5 months ago

        I think you need to wait like 90 days or so after a domain purchase or transfer to be able to transfer it.

        They did about a week ago, and that’s what I’m assuming is going to be the hangup. I’ve just not ever messed with domains registered through WordPress, so I’m also unclear if there are any other restrictions or paywalls (everything is an upsell with them). I get mine directly from a registrar and am familiar with transferring those.

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          5 months ago

          Yeah, that’s probably impossible. I think that’s an ICANN rule.

          But I would assume that wordpress is a normal registrar, just one that’s highly integrated into their other services.

          Edit: apparently the limit is 60 days, and a registrar can choose to transfer it anyways but they don’t have too. It’s an ICANN rule intended to protect the buyer.

          Transferring a domain from wordpress seems to be pretty straightforward with no fees. If they are not too expensive you could also just change the nameservers or edit the wordpress DNS if that is possible.

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            5 months ago

            Thanks!

            I’ve got more than 60 days before they want to go live, so it’s certainly possible.

            I hadn’t looked into it at all yet (have had other things on my plate today), but my main fear was that the domain was registered to WP and just assigned to their account (e.g. WP “owned” the domain and we wouldn’t have standing to transfer it). Again, I have done zero research on that front and was largely assuming WP would make it difficult.

            I’ll talk to the stakeholders and see what they think. They’ve already paid for a year of hosting and additionally may want to stick with WP for “reasons” (in which case I’m stuck). They didn’t say why they chose it, so I dunno. We’ll see I guess. Thanks again.