• freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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    10 months ago

    I ask this a lot, but why prefix fascist with Christo? ALL European fascism has always been Christian and explicitly so. It’s an inheritance from the Holy Roman Empire that dominated Europe and engaged in ethnic cleansing in the name of God. It’s the same Christian Manifest Destiny that genocide the indigenous in the western hemisphere. It’s the same Christianity that led to an explicit policy of rape by the Spanish all over Latin America to breed out the unclean blood and save as many souls as possible. It’s never NOT been Christian.

    Just call it what it is. It’s fascism. It’s the same fascism.

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      10 months ago

      Because the average person doesn’t know the direct ties between Christianity and Nazism, so it’s a good tool to catch them up to speed.

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        10 months ago

        But it sounds like it’s somehow different from regular fascism when you qualify it with a prefix.

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          10 months ago

          It’s the first step towards realizing “oh god, ALL fascism is christofascism”

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      10 months ago

      Christofascism is clearly a huge branch, one that runs through Vatican, KKK, Catholics, Republicans and places in Europe wherever state is secretly married to the Church.

      Christianity in Europe and USA is not the same as what was once born in Jerusalem, Palestine.

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        10 months ago

        You mean fasco-christianty? As in some Christianity is fascist but not all Christianity? That’s not the point. The point is that all fascism so far has been Christian. Qualifying fascism by saying this fascism is Christo fascism makes it seem like it’s somehow different from regular fascism

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          10 months ago

          No, all fascism has not been Christian to date. A lot of it has been, but fascism has been practiced outside of Anglo world in many ways. It is a concept catering to primitive brains, after all.

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      10 months ago

      I mean…you kinda said it there. European fascism can trace its lineage to European Christian kings, empires, and popes. But that’s fascism born of Europe. As others have said fascism has been and is practiced elsewhere and with different religious and cultural influences.

      Christo is merely an aesthetic modifier. It tells you what surface level flavor of fascism to expect. Remember that Nazis used language and themes of socialism in their aesthetic as well. It’s why we still refer to them as Nazis and not solely fascists.

      Though I understand your point. Why not call a christo-fascist and a Nazi the same thing. You certainly can; no one’s going to stop you. At its core fascism is always the same malignant stage of capitalistic rot. It’s practitioners will use whatever aesthetics they wants. Whatever works. Some may find it useful to describe the aesthetic quality of one fascism to expose its core similarities to other instances of fascism.