• LotrOrc@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Ah you mean the Iran that was doing perfectly well and was a beacon of progressiveness until the United States overthrew their democratically elected government in the 50s?

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      7 months ago

      It is not the argument if they were evil before the US intervened

      You can not change the past and currently they are a oppresive religious dictatorship

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        7 months ago

        You don’t think the US putting in place the current regime has anything to do with the way that regime acts now?

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          7 months ago

          Except the US didn’t put in the current regime. In fact, that’s the exact opposite of what happened.

          Iran had a functional democracy until the UK convinced the US to overthrow them and install a dictator that allowed BP to extract all the oil they wanted. That regime pissed off the populace, leading to the Iranian Civil War which led to the overthroing of the US-backed dictatorship and Ayatollah coming to power.

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            7 months ago

            Apologies, should have stated better. You are correct - what I meant is the current regime is there as a direct result of US intervention

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      7 months ago

      The Shah had his secret police making people disappear and using torture. He was not a beacon of anything.

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        7 months ago

        Shah was a piece of shit, but i’m pretty sure lotrorc is about removal of prime minister Mossadegh from power. That definitely didn’t make things better

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          7 months ago

          and by the way, i’m of opinion that it’s one of several times in history when rabid mccarthyism of CIA came around to bite them in their ass later, because if shah’s CIA handlers weren’t laser-focused on destruction of Tudeh party, then Khomeini would have to compete with them for audience and islamic revolution might have never happened. but it’s a talk for another day

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        7 months ago

        I don’t think they are talking about the Islamic revolution of the 70s. I believe they are referring to the coup of the Prime Minister in 53’.

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      7 months ago

      Ahhh, yes, let’s dig up events from 70 years ago as justification for their current behavior!

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        7 months ago

        You don’t think that the US putting in an extremist faction that has run the country since has anything to do with them being extremist now?

        And funnily enough they’ve shown more restraint than Israel this entire time