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Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
oh Sheaās Zulip posts are a fucking trip too. itās yet another straight up tantrum from the same kind of folks who think you shouldnāt get banned if you tell every moderator to go fuck themselves, personally, during a phone call
they absolutely are
loved this LWN subthread where another of these guys makes vague accusations, replies look at his actual posts and say yeah you should have been kicked out
and this one where yet another poster laments needless politicisation and the immediate responses are āoh itās youā and receipts
ahahaha you know this whole āI donāt see any problems in the Nix community other than these woke fuckers starting dramaā shit would be so much more effective if the folks saying that could stop themselves from following it up with the most obviously fash shit Iāve ever seen
also itās kind of amazing how fast that second poster got recognized and called out. a whole bunch of way too high profile fash and neoreactionary tech weirdos tried to make nix their hill to die on (and were probably encouraged by the lack of tech media coverage of whatās going on, allowing them room to control the conversation), but theyāre pretty consistently getting told to shut the fuck up by people whoāve had the audacity to read their previous posts and know exactly who theyāre dealing with.
this is the kind of response that makes me optimistic that we can achieve less toxic open source communities as a new norm, one day. Lix seems to be doing it right; Aux unfortunately seems to be absolute chaos, but its heart is in the right place.
e: and of course, the new Nix governance structures getting this kind of negative, effortful response from the worst parts of the community is making me optimistic itās going to work, in a way that the announcement and Zulip frankly havenāt yet. an outspokenly antifascist nixpkgs combined with Lix would give the fash parts of the nix community effectively nowhere left to go, especially if Nix or Aux does the remainder of the work left to make Lix the evaluator NixOSās tooling calls into.
i wonder how long before the antiwoke fork
made me wonder if devuan is still a thing and holy shit it is
Whatās the backstory with Devuan? I first heard of it from someone licking Andrew Leeās boots after the Freenode debacle, and that instantly branded it as really suspect. But it might just be Debian minus systemd?
In 2015 Debian officially dropped the requirement that packages support sysvinit scripts and only required systemd support. Devuan is indeed intended to be a fork that only removes systemd and maintains support for other inits like sysvinit, openrc, runit, etc.
Last time I looked (and it has been a while) the anti-systemd origin story had attracted a few nutters, but I didnāt see anything suspicious about the dev team itselfā¦
EDIT: I see a couple connections to cryptocoin crap, but no smoking gun yet. Still digging.
EDIT2: wtf am I looking at: https://dyne.org/software/dynebolic/ strange vibes all over this.
EDIT3: Seems like the cryptocoiner, Set Hallstrƶm AKA Setto Sakrecoer, is the main dev/organizer of devuan? The structure of devuan and dyne.org does not seem to be set out, instead itās an informal ādo-ocracyā with a whole mess of normal and weird projects in a loose constellation.
finally, an operating system worthy of all your favorite urbit services
There are no rws in tech because there are no rws in tech, qed
Look by my definition you can only be a RW if you voted for the republicans in the past 5 elections, and there are not many of those, so he is right!
Yeah milesrout made a fool of themselves on lobste.rs and got banned.
The guys should just have been banned for writing posts that take hours to read that the mods then have to read and respond to.