Two decades of U.S. policy appear to be rooted in a mistaken understanding of what happened that day.

Two decades of U.S. policy appear to be rooted in a mistaken understanding of what happened that day. archive

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
    7·
    6 months ago

    Which one is the way worse one? Because I can’t really think of a way in which one is way worse than the other. I wouldn’t ever want to live in either place if I were a woman or a queer person.

    • RubberDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
      24·
      6 months ago

      I think Iran is worse personally across the board. But I intentionally left that out of my comment as it does not really matter. And for minorities and women both are … unsafe.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
        73·
        6 months ago

        Well then you would be wrong.

        Iran never let anything like this happen- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Mecca_girls'_school_fire

        So unless you think a country that lets girls burn to death rather than go out in the street uncovered is superior to a country that doesn’t…

        But please do tell me the ways that Iran does things in terms of human rights that significantly differ from the ways that Saudi Arabia does things.

        • RubberDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
          32·
          6 months ago

          Nah Squid, as I said I’m not looking for this discussion. I’m definitely not going into an who can out evil who debate as there is so much out there. I’m also not looking to defend any of these countries either. As I said, bad and worse.

          • Maalus@lemmy.worldEnglish
            41·
            6 months ago

            You aren’t looking to defend countries yet you call one “bad” and the other “worse”.

            • RubberDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
              31·
              6 months ago

              Absolutely, and I’m plenty entitled to my opinion.

              In my original post I purposefully did not specify my opinion on which is worse as I fully understand that choosing one as more evil over the other is subjective and depends on your perspective and priorities.

              Squid asked a question, fully expecting my answer to be as it was, in order to perform a gotcha. And I’m not interested in having a slapfight on which country is more evil… as the list of horribleness for each of the countries is so sickeningly long.

              But in the end both countries are hellholes, tthat I would not wish my worst enemy to live in.

              Edit: I’m just sad that this leads to downvotes.

              • Maalus@lemmy.worldEnglish
                12·
                6 months ago

                Your original post literally contains “one is bad and the other is way worse”. You started out from a non-neutral position. Then people called you out, and you got defensive saying that you aren’t going to go into “who’s worse”. Which again, you already did. There is no slapfight without your subjective opinion being unbalanced in the first place.

                • RubberDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  21·
                  6 months ago

                  I left it to the reader to fill in which is which… the definition of neutral. You also think one is worse than the other and fill in the names different than me.

                  So calling me out in this case means: looking for a slapfight. And you are too. Thanks but no thanks, I’ll quit this thread now.

                  • Maalus@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    1·
                    6 months ago

                    Nope, you literally implied “one is bad - Saudis, the other one is worse - Iran”. That’s why you got called out.