• TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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    29 days ago

    Ah yes, the false premise again.

    The same way literally every law or policy has ever been passed will ever be passed. You and your surrogates take the policies into the public conversation advocate for them, and you convert people into adopting your position. You convince the voters of the politicians that your policy is the better policy, and you engage those voters in converting that politician. You form coalitions and you build the rhetorical case for whatever it is that you are doing. Its literally the work of all of politics.

    You may not have been exposed to that because you’ve probably developed your political understanding under decades of Democratic rule where the only political maneuvers they know are ‘heal’ and “roll over”. But technically it is possible for Democrats to fight for good policies and get them into law, even if they seem physically incapable of it in their modern manifestation.

    So I can understand if you are confused by the idea that Democrats could actually engage in leadership, but in-fact, it is actually what they are elected to do. If the American voters wanted Republican policies coming out of the White House, be it in the form of administrative orders or in the bills they are promoting in congress, they could have just voted Republican.

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      29 days ago

      It’s not a false premise to ask how the hell you expect policy to pass within the current makeup of Congress. You can just say you don’t have an answer. You don’t have to type several paragraphs dodging the question every time.

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          29 days ago

          It’s not bad faith to ask you to support your claims. You can’t just scream “bad faith” whenever you get stuck. It’s not gonna work. Have a good night!

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              29 days ago

              You failed to support your argument, and blamed it on your opinion of the character of the commenter who asked for it. You may want to take a look in the mirror.

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      28 days ago

      You and your surrogates take the policies into the public conversation advocate for them, and you convert people into adopting your position.

      That sounds like the Republican politicians I know- converted to supporting Democrat policies through public opinion.