• Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    11
    ·
    edit-2
    4 months ago

    Revealing Chinese war crimes is also a crime in China.

    If China forcefully extradites an American journalists because the journalist leaks secret Chinese state documents of Uyghur concentration camps… would you be defending China because the journalist did something “illegal”?

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      4 months ago

      Well no, because one of the rules for extradition is both countries must consider it a crime.

      And before you answer, I’m pretty sure China has done exactly this from countries friendly to them. Which falls under the heading of journalists needing to be aware of the realities of where they’re going. It’s just not American journalists because we still have a bigger stick for now.

      So again, let me know when the NYT is running information operations to discredit China. Exposing Human Rights violations is not what Assange is guilty of.

      • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        8
        ·
        edit-2
        4 months ago

        Well no, because one of the rules for extradition is both countries must consider it a crime.

        No that’s not true. Only the country demanding the extradition has to mark someone as a criminal. Often extradition treaties are made so if one country marks someone as a criminal and they flee somewhere else, that country will deliver them the criminal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition

        In this case America is heavily abusing the extradition treaty by marking a journalist as a criminal because he leaked evidence of war crimes.

        I’m pretty sure China has done exactly this from countries friendly to them.

        Accusing America of violating press freedom doesn’t mean I’m somehow defending Chinese press freedom. There’s a reason I’m equating America to China here.

        • Maggoty@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          9
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          4 months ago

          Assange is not a journalist. Again, let me know when the NYT does what he did. It’s detailed in the comment above.

          And yes, a country can always exercise its sovereignty. There is no physical means of forcing an extradition short of using military power.

          • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            10
            ·
            4 months ago

            Strange that all journalists call Assange a journalist.

            So you’re saying anyone leaking classified israeli documents of war crimes is a criminal?

            • Maggoty@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              8
              arrow-down
              5
              ·
              edit-2
              4 months ago

              That’s not true. Some people who call themselves journalists call Assange a journalist.

              Here’s the comment you have yet to substantively respond to.

              So when the NYT colludes with Russian hackers and a campaign to interfere with elections I’ll call Assange a journalist.

                • Maggoty@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  4 months ago

                  Yes, and the “Iraq War Logs”. So again, get back to me when the NYT releases just whatever they can get with the express intent of harming the US war effort and reputation on the global stage.