Self-proclaimed misogynist ‘brazen’ about refusing to pay tax on revenue from online businesses, court told

Self-proclaimed misogynist ‘brazen’ about refusing to pay tax on revenue from online businesses, court told

Andrew Tate and his brother, Tristan, have been accused of failing to pay tax on £21m of revenue from their online businesses.

Devon and Cornwall police are bringing a civil claim against the brothers and a third person referred to as J over unpaid tax, Westminster magistrates’ court heard on Monday. The force is seeking about £2.8m in seven frozen bank accounts.

Sarah Clarke KC for Devon and Cornwall police said: “Andrew Tate and Tristan Tate are serial tax and VAT evaders. They, in particular Andrew Tate, are brazen about it.”

It is claimed that they paid no tax in any country on £21m revenue from businesses online earned between 2014 and 2022. Clarke quoted from a video posted online by Andrew Tate, in which the self-proclaimed misogynist said: “When I lived in England I refused to pay tax.”

The court heard he said his approach was “ignore, ignore, ignore because in the end they go away”. The court also heard that the brothers had a “huge number of bank accounts” in the UK, seven of which have been frozen.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
    343·
    5 months ago

    They have very few good role models to choose from. That’s part of the problem.

    There aren’t enough role models teaching them that you can be a man without being toxic to women.

    • Default_Defect@midwest.socialEnglish
      172·
      5 months ago

      This is true, but I can find a better role model on the bottom of my shoe. I wish people weren’t so susceptible to his type of bullshit.

    • ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      153·
      5 months ago

      There’s an unlimited supply of great role models on the internet. It just takes a few minutes of effort to find them, because algorithmic feeds that are optimized for outrage/engagement to serve more ads are slightly easier to consume.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
        121·
        5 months ago

        If they have to look for them, they will find the ones they don’t have to look for first. Expecting them to seek out a healthy role model when the Andrew Tates of the world prey on them is a foolish expectation.

    • dactylotheca@suppo.fiEnglish
      93·
      5 months ago

      There aren’t enough role models teaching them that you can be a man without being toxic to women.

      Is this really the problem, or is the problem that the sort of people with role models like Tate are the sort of people who wouldn’t gravitate towards non-toxic role models in the first place?

      Because if it’s actually true that there are very few good male role models to choose from, I’m not entirely sure what that tells us about men, exactly.

      • phdepressed@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        51·
        5 months ago

        It’s more a factor of the format. There are few if any good female role models for the same type of spaces. The terminally online and angry at life teens aren’t interacting with the spaces where good role models are.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
          8·
          5 months ago

          And the algorithms are actively pushing them away from the good role models toward the controversial videos.

        • dactylotheca@suppo.fiEnglish
          31·
          5 months ago

          There are few if any good female role models for the same type of spaces.

          This is such an odd take that I’m really not sure what type of spaces you’re referring to exactly

          • phdepressed@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            7·
            5 months ago

            Spaces of anger at life. Of “edginess” bordering into the “isms” (racism, antisemitism, sexism etc) as proof of how much you don’t give a fuck. That exists for many (usually depressed) teens. These spaces exist for both young men and women and lead into listening to the same type of shit takes. These spaces basically algorithmically get “edgier” and edgier until they are actually racist, sexist, etc. Any good role model who chances upon this and tries to engage is drowned out derided and shunned (either for not understanding “we’re just being edgy, man” to “heres some ‘articles’ about phrenology and the replacement theory that looks real emough to most people” until the good person leaves.

            The female equivalent to Tate would be something like a “tradwife” vlogger. They may not be as infamous but there’s a lot of them and they aren’t better.

            A woman watching tradwife vlogs and a man watching Tate are both upset about various things in society. Many of which are reasonable, the cost of living, being able to find a partner, why the government doesn’t work for them, whether there is any meaning in their life basically. They only get the perspective of get rich, fuck women or find a rich man and make babies/take care of the house.