I am aware of that paradox but I think it’s misguided, because it’s essentially just an excuse for neverending violence and revolution. Anytime you punish someone for not adhering to some sort of group standards, you aren’t likely change their minds about those standards being a moral good. Some might relent and begrudgingly go along with them, but others will not, and in time they’ll accumulate. At some point, there will be enough of them to overthrow the status quo, and then your intolerance will be replaced with theirs. So the result is that you live in an eternal state of intolerance, all in the name of tolerance. It’s a sucker’s game, and only fools are dumb enough to go along with it.
If you cannot defend your standards using reason, they are immoral, and they’ll eventually be overthrown and abolished, as they should.
You cannot reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into.
If someone is being intolerant out of ignorance, by all means we should try to politely educate them and help them be better. But there are a lot of bigots out there who will be racist, sexist, or transphobic despite your best efforts.
Nobody else should have to put up with an uncomfortable work environment, social club, or anything else, because we have to make accommodations to be tolerant of bigots.
And nobody said anything about violence. It’s entirely about excluding people from spaces with others who do not want to have to be exposed to that intolerance.
You cannot reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into.
That’s merely an assumption based on a stereotype you have about people like this. Just because reason may have failed with other people like that in the past doesn’t mean it’s not going to work with this one, especially if you haven’t even tried to reason with them and immediately go for the bigger gun of ostracism (i.e. firing).
It is not reasonable to deprive someone of their source of income for having an opinion you don’t like. It IS reasonable to tell them that their opinion doesn’t belong in the company chat, and give them a warning that disciplinary action may result if they do it again.
Nobody else should have to put up with an uncomfortable work environment, social club, or anything else, because we have to make accommodations to be tolerant of bigots.
You’re excusing hatred with bigotry. The same argument could be used to exclude transgender people.
I am aware of that paradox but I think it’s misguided, because it’s essentially just an excuse for neverending violence and revolution. Anytime you punish someone for not adhering to some sort of group standards, you aren’t likely change their minds about those standards being a moral good. Some might relent and begrudgingly go along with them, but others will not, and in time they’ll accumulate. At some point, there will be enough of them to overthrow the status quo, and then your intolerance will be replaced with theirs. So the result is that you live in an eternal state of intolerance, all in the name of tolerance. It’s a sucker’s game, and only fools are dumb enough to go along with it.
If you cannot defend your standards using reason, they are immoral, and they’ll eventually be overthrown and abolished, as they should.
You cannot reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into.
If someone is being intolerant out of ignorance, by all means we should try to politely educate them and help them be better. But there are a lot of bigots out there who will be racist, sexist, or transphobic despite your best efforts.
Nobody else should have to put up with an uncomfortable work environment, social club, or anything else, because we have to make accommodations to be tolerant of bigots.
And nobody said anything about violence. It’s entirely about excluding people from spaces with others who do not want to have to be exposed to that intolerance.
That’s merely an assumption based on a stereotype you have about people like this. Just because reason may have failed with other people like that in the past doesn’t mean it’s not going to work with this one, especially if you haven’t even tried to reason with them and immediately go for the bigger gun of ostracism (i.e. firing).
It is not reasonable to deprive someone of their source of income for having an opinion you don’t like. It IS reasonable to tell them that their opinion doesn’t belong in the company chat, and give them a warning that disciplinary action may result if they do it again.
You’re excusing hatred with bigotry. The same argument could be used to exclude transgender people.