• Optional@lemmy.worldOP
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    19
    ·
    4 months ago

    So your plan is to attack them with weapons. I mean, it might work I guess. Be careful.

    Otherwise you have no plan. You do understand anyone can participate in the Democratic party and third-parties are guaranteed failure, right? What’s the genius solution then?

    • masquenox@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      20
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      4 months ago

      Otherwise you have no plan.

      In other words… just like you. The person you are responding to is just not being dishonest about it.

      • m0darn@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        4 months ago

        I think the actual action is to engage with the democratic political process.

        So yes, vote. But also go to town hall meetings, and park board meetings, and parent advisory council meetings. Write a letters to your representatives, and then go to one of their events and tell them what you think of their response.

    • The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      4 months ago

      Voting for Biden/Dems isn’t much of a plan either, it’s just stalling. But you need to stall for something, you need something that you are buying time for.

      In regard to third parties, my country has a different system, a parliamentary one (technically semi-presidential, but for the purposes of the topic, it’s parliamentary), but nevertheless, up until recently we had 2 major parties, and so far only one of the 2 ever won an election, and all my life I’ve often heard the argument of “useful vote” (“voting for someone else is a waste of your vote”) as a justification to vote for one of them, even from journalists and pundits. But the far right, for one reason or another, simply didn’t care about a “useful vote”, and just voted for who they wanted; that is why in our last elections, and for the first time since we’ve had elections, everyone was now talking about 3 choices for a useful vote.

      I know it’s a different system, but the point of the story is that you are engaging in a self-fulfilling prophecy. Neither democrats nor republicans will ever want to change the system because it will hurt them. Voting blue instead of red is a stalling tactic to stop/delay the fascists, but it doesn’t actually solve anything.

      • Optional@lemmy.worldOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        10
        ·
        4 months ago

        So you’re not an American voter, and you’re going tell us how American politics works. Or should work.

        Okay - pretty much any other time than the weeks prior to an existential election I’d be interested to talk about that. Right now is not that time however.

    • kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      4 months ago

      I don’t have some magical solution to the flaws of democracy, but any good solution needs to begin with ensuring that the population is politically educated