Why do you bring up their sole redeeming quality other than having read three articles by Gabriel Rockhill about Adorno and Marcuse etcetera for me to get mad at it.
In fact, I doubt they have read it, since a lot of these guys try to recoup Heidegger and Zizek while pretending none of their critics have done more than draw associations between them and reactionary thought & institutions - not true of course. It’s not that difficult to tear apart stuff like Heidegger’s word games about being, and saying that shit really displays how little they read of criticism of their favorite writers, suggesting they haven’t gotten through much of the original texts, enough to quote mine probably.
Their rejection of structural racism and invention of reverse woke structural
racism (analysis of structurally embedded racism in US finance capital is all throughout writing by Michael Hudson, as he talks about the legacy of redlining and the 2008 catastrophe of black household wealth, they also pretend to have read him!!) seems like direct fed counterplay to me, but I’m not going to bother with deep investigation into more infuencer debate tourney bullshit if I don’t have to. None of this lends any legitimacy to Sakaiist Twitter leftist ideology.
It’s not a “personal esoteric rejection” it’s a broader grounding in Marxist theory, specifically anti-imperialist theory, dependency theory, unequal exchange, core/periphery and other world systems models, sorry that’s not informed by Twitter and Youtube leftists from the anglosphere-dominated internet, but instead informed by Marxist texts already popular in China and Latin America, but only translated within the past 5 years. Personally I think I’m lucky.
I think you are the ones with a personal esoteric rejection. It’s like attacking Caleb Maupin and Tariq Nasheed for being sexually perverse, instead of being obvious informants. It’s clear the existence of “patriotic socialists” is met with absolute glee by the online western left. It validates you as much as NAFO people and the CPUSA base.
you’re posting on an anonymous internet forum called “chapo trap house” if you want to educate people make an actual c/effort post about it and do so. but so far you’re just rocking into a shitpost and claiming to have achieved such great theoretical understanding that you have moved beyond thinking that Settlers is a useful text, which is fine, but you also refuse to elaborate. you’re making assumptions about me at least because i don’t know who the fuck you’re talking about or what glee i’m supposed to be experiencing about patsoc grifters. i’m personally disappointed. so. not really sure what you’re thinking you’re doing here. if this is a bit, then blackmoldfutures did it better
you have been commenting paragraphs of jargon at me for making a joke about patsocs being scared by Maoist/Third Worldists, i don’t think i’m the upset one here. on a communist shitposting forum. either be more coherent or restrain yourself more, multiple users here are asking if you’re a joke account (bmf aka blackmoldfutures). i’m only half convinced you aren’t a joke account.
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Sorry if I disturbed the third worldist (?) validation that these guys give you for having read one pamphlet.
i have no fucking clue what you think you’re talking to me about or whatever your personal beef with the book Settlers is, but i’m pretty clearly making this thing called a “joke” about how fascists are afraid of it. you know, because this is an unserious thread about making jokes and not having serious academic discussions of historical materialism.
I’m glad you bring this up BTW because you can go back and see this is the exact same crowd. Sorry if double replying is antagonistic or something, but just look at how one of the MWM guys used to be part of a Texan Maoist organization. Maupin was at Occupy Wall Street. A lot of the MAGA Communists were literally democratic party vat children mere years ago. Whether that’s a direct ideological connection to the compatible left I’m talking about or fed informants switching up their jobs it’s a good example of how they’re very similar to and contiguous with it. I say they’re just part of it. I ignore the branding.
Go look at the language used in any of the articles on the More Perfect Union site. Same babble about the Constitution.
i don’t think double replying is antagonistic, personally. yes, the few of the name-signers on this particular fed-site of nazbol grifters that i recognize are people that were spending their time just a few years ago posting about their readings of Capital
All the good stuff in MWM’s work comes from reapplying Gabriel Rockhill and Michael Hudson. You stray outside that and the wrestling coach Liger is turning in sophomoric articles about chronic lyme disease.
I’m worried people are going to shitcoat it.
By the way this Tariq Nasheed guy is one of the most obvious informants that has ever lives. Used to be named Marcus Sanders.
They are not scared of anyone who they are able to indefinitely feud with online, no. Don’t kid yourself. If you don’t believe me, refer to any of their monologues about antagonizing “soyboy leftists” and the far right for engagement. They thrive off of outrage bait. It seems you are glazing over everything I’m saying. There’s no time limit on responding to my mountains of “jargon”. Just go live your life. Unless you really need to pretend you know better, just go drink some water and go for a walk.
you are being mind-shatteringly serious about a joke. do you not understand what jokes are? i have not claimed anything to do with Settlers other than a familiarity with the general contents. to make a joke. you’re posting to a lot of people that they need to read another pamphlet and talking about who all is a fed, which is a wild thing to do so seriously about a joke. it’s not that i necessarily agree with you or not, i just don’t think you understand the current location you’re in. i think that Settlers is flawed and that i’m not well-read enough to attempt any form of organized sectarian resistance to american empire from within. i personally have distaste for Maoist/tw rejection of aes countries. but i made a joke about settlers because it’s a meme. again, not sure if you know what jokes are because you seem to be thinking that i genuinely believe that fascists are afraid of settlers. i do not. that is why it’s a joke to say that they are. because they make a lot of noise as if they are. which is how jokes work.
None of this analysis is actually predicated on the fixation “patsocs” have on Settlers. It is just one angle from which we can discuss their need to draw people into online feuds to gain notoriety, and their factual links to the compatible left in the US, like how Pettis used to be a Maoist, but there are oodles of examples. I just use it as a springboard, I used another random comment in the other thread about this.
Writing these people off with inaccurate and simultaneously sensationalist + downplaying descriptions doesn’t help. I think Ben Norton has the best strategy for dealing with their attacks. Ignore them except for one recent response video.
Settlers has its own interesting history but I’d rather not get into that either. My point is these guys are not so different from orgs posted around here and that’s not a good sign haha
Why do you bring up their sole redeeming quality other than having read three articles by Gabriel Rockhill about Adorno and Marcuse etcetera for me to get mad at it.
In fact, I doubt they have read it, since a lot of these guys try to recoup Heidegger and Zizek while pretending none of their critics have done more than draw associations between them and reactionary thought & institutions - not true of course. It’s not that difficult to tear apart stuff like Heidegger’s word games about being, and saying that shit really displays how little they read of criticism of their favorite writers, suggesting they haven’t gotten through much of the original texts, enough to quote mine probably.
Their rejection of structural racism and invention of reverse woke structural racism (analysis of structurally embedded racism in US finance capital is all throughout writing by Michael Hudson, as he talks about the legacy of redlining and the 2008 catastrophe of black household wealth, they also pretend to have read him!!) seems like direct fed counterplay to me, but I’m not going to bother with deep investigation into more infuencer debate tourney bullshit if I don’t have to. None of this lends any legitimacy to Sakaiist Twitter leftist ideology.
Are you like BMFs slightly more articulate cousin?
it’s like a bmf that hates these guys and third worldists i think?
Am I supposed to understand what this means or is this just playing to the crowd around here?
BMF was the most famous poster here before he got banned. If you’ve been here for more than a month you should have already heard of him.
It’s not a “personal esoteric rejection” it’s a broader grounding in Marxist theory, specifically anti-imperialist theory, dependency theory, unequal exchange, core/periphery and other world systems models, sorry that’s not informed by Twitter and Youtube leftists from the anglosphere-dominated internet, but instead informed by Marxist texts already popular in China and Latin America, but only translated within the past 5 years. Personally I think I’m lucky.
I think you are the ones with a personal esoteric rejection. It’s like attacking Caleb Maupin and Tariq Nasheed for being sexually perverse, instead of being obvious informants. It’s clear the existence of “patriotic socialists” is met with absolute glee by the online western left. It validates you as much as NAFO people and the CPUSA base.
you’re posting on an anonymous internet forum called “chapo trap house” if you want to educate people make an actual c/effort post about it and do so. but so far you’re just rocking into a shitpost and claiming to have achieved such great theoretical understanding that you have moved beyond thinking that Settlers is a useful text, which is fine, but you also refuse to elaborate. you’re making assumptions about me at least because i don’t know who the fuck you’re talking about or what glee i’m supposed to be experiencing about patsoc grifters. i’m personally disappointed. so. not really sure what you’re thinking you’re doing here. if this is a bit, then blackmoldfutures did it better
There is no need to be upset. Sorry if I disturbed the third worldist (?) validation that these guys give you for having read one pamphlet.
you have been commenting paragraphs of jargon at me for making a joke about patsocs being scared by Maoist/Third Worldists, i don’t think i’m the upset one here. on a communist shitposting forum. either be more coherent or restrain yourself more, multiple users here are asking if you’re a joke account (bmf aka blackmoldfutures). i’m only half convinced you aren’t a joke account.
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i have no fucking clue what you think you’re talking to me about or whatever your personal beef with the book Settlers is, but i’m pretty clearly making this thing called a “joke” about how fascists are afraid of it. you know, because this is an unserious thread about making jokes and not having serious academic discussions of historical materialism.
I’m glad you bring this up BTW because you can go back and see this is the exact same crowd. Sorry if double replying is antagonistic or something, but just look at how one of the MWM guys used to be part of a Texan Maoist organization. Maupin was at Occupy Wall Street. A lot of the MAGA Communists were literally democratic party vat children mere years ago. Whether that’s a direct ideological connection to the compatible left I’m talking about or fed informants switching up their jobs it’s a good example of how they’re very similar to and contiguous with it. I say they’re just part of it. I ignore the branding.
Go look at the language used in any of the articles on the More Perfect Union site. Same babble about the Constitution.
i don’t think double replying is antagonistic, personally. yes, the few of the name-signers on this particular fed-site of nazbol grifters that i recognize are people that were spending their time just a few years ago posting about their readings of Capital
All the good stuff in MWM’s work comes from reapplying Gabriel Rockhill and Michael Hudson. You stray outside that and the wrestling coach Liger is turning in sophomoric articles about chronic lyme disease.
I’m worried people are going to shitcoat it.
By the way this Tariq Nasheed guy is one of the most obvious informants that has ever lives. Used to be named Marcus Sanders.
They are not scared of anyone who they are able to indefinitely feud with online, no. Don’t kid yourself. If you don’t believe me, refer to any of their monologues about antagonizing “soyboy leftists” and the far right for engagement. They thrive off of outrage bait. It seems you are glazing over everything I’m saying. There’s no time limit on responding to my mountains of “jargon”. Just go live your life. Unless you really need to pretend you know better, just go drink some water and go for a walk.
you are being mind-shatteringly serious about a joke. do you not understand what jokes are? i have not claimed anything to do with Settlers other than a familiarity with the general contents. to make a joke. you’re posting to a lot of people that they need to read another pamphlet and talking about who all is a fed, which is a wild thing to do so seriously about a joke. it’s not that i necessarily agree with you or not, i just don’t think you understand the current location you’re in. i think that Settlers is flawed and that i’m not well-read enough to attempt any form of organized sectarian resistance to american empire from within. i personally have distaste for Maoist/tw rejection of aes countries. but i made a joke about settlers because it’s a meme. again, not sure if you know what jokes are because you seem to be thinking that i genuinely believe that fascists are afraid of settlers. i do not. that is why it’s a joke to say that they are. because they make a lot of noise as if they are. which is how jokes work.
None of this analysis is actually predicated on the fixation “patsocs” have on Settlers. It is just one angle from which we can discuss their need to draw people into online feuds to gain notoriety, and their factual links to the compatible left in the US, like how Pettis used to be a Maoist, but there are oodles of examples. I just use it as a springboard, I used another random comment in the other thread about this.
Writing these people off with inaccurate and simultaneously sensationalist + downplaying descriptions doesn’t help. I think Ben Norton has the best strategy for dealing with their attacks. Ignore them except for one recent response video.
Settlers has its own interesting history but I’d rather not get into that either. My point is these guys are not so different from orgs posted around here and that’s not a good sign haha