Yeah, but if people only worked essential jobs, and not in stupid competitive ways that only make the owners of some of those companies rich, you could get by with much less work. Think about how wasteful industrial production is, and how many office building skyscrapers and malls are being built just for investors’ sakes that are not needed, and often lay empty.
If people only built what is actually needed for good lives, and not for greed, so much manpower would be freed up. Especially if they did it in sustainable ways that wouldn’t require everything being torn down or renewed again really soon.
Also, imagine crypto shitcoin peddlers being forced to do useful work like plumbing. There are so many people just getting paid for downright evil or at least useless shit.
So the malls are for investors or they lay empty? Those two things are quite contradictory…
And who decides what is needed for a good life? What if I want a garden? What if I want a convertible? What if I want to fly to Hawaii? What if I want to race cars?
3h per day doesn’t need to be portioned as such. Maybe you work 8 hour days for 6 months and take the rest of the year off until you’re back for your next project.
Fair enough but we can be charitable and consider it an average. Dismissing it by literal interpretation isn’t advancing the conversation. Apply the principle of charity and the point stands.
Lol we decided plumbing and electricity were cool, and that shit takes work
Yeah, but if people only worked essential jobs, and not in stupid competitive ways that only make the owners of some of those companies rich, you could get by with much less work. Think about how wasteful industrial production is, and how many office building skyscrapers and malls are being built just for investors’ sakes that are not needed, and often lay empty.
If people only built what is actually needed for good lives, and not for greed, so much manpower would be freed up. Especially if they did it in sustainable ways that wouldn’t require everything being torn down or renewed again really soon.
Also, imagine crypto shitcoin peddlers being forced to do useful work like plumbing. There are so many people just getting paid for downright evil or at least useless shit.
So the malls are for investors or they lay empty? Those two things are quite contradictory…
And who decides what is needed for a good life? What if I want a garden? What if I want a convertible? What if I want to fly to Hawaii? What if I want to race cars?
Yeah generally.
But if folks are unmotivated for the work they are forced to do, then you get shit work.
If people.just chase profit, you get what we have now.
There’s no way we are maintaining the standards of modernity on 3h a day where folks are dictated by some outside force into what labor is most needed
We chase money because this equates to goods and services. Well there’s a huge excess of money being produced and horded.
This excess production is a result of … work (plus machinery, efficiency improvements etc).
Obviously. That was the edit “what we have now” I referred to.
I’m not idealizing the current system, I’m saying 3h of “whatever needs to be done” isn’t going to keep us anywhere near a western standard of living
3h per day doesn’t need to be portioned as such. Maybe you work 8 hour days for 6 months and take the rest of the year off until you’re back for your next project.
Top comment referred to 3h per day.
Fair enough but we can be charitable and consider it an average. Dismissing it by literal interpretation isn’t advancing the conversation. Apply the principle of charity and the point stands.
Sure but I can’t be able to cover every possible non traditional work type.
My point is I was specifically contrasting the stated 3h ancient standard
Nup! Spoiler alert - it was agriculture.
Gotta farm that wifi my guy