• emizeko [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    so when Victoria Nuland picked Ukraine’s new government after instigating a coup and they killed ~16,000 civilians people in Donbas between 2014 and 2022 those were friendly, non-aggressive artillery shells?

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      1 year ago

      So you’re saying that Russia didn’t invade Ukraine first, before the separatist-controlled areas were shelled?

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          1 year ago

          Oh, so you’re saying that Russia illegally annexing Crimea in 2014 wasn’t an invasion of Ukraine?

          • CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.net
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            1 year ago

            You can always tell who the most ignorant libs are when they bring up Crimea lmao

            Crimea is not Ukrainian, it has always been a distinct cultural ethnic region and 97% of Crimeans voting for independence from Kiev should give you pause before you breathlessly insist they should remain beholden to a bunch of nazi banderites

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              1 year ago

              Crimeans wanting independence means they wanted to become part of the Russian empire again?

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                the Russian federation is a reactionary bourgeois state that is a hollowed out shell of its former USSR self, but I dislike the hyperbole that it is “the Russian Empire”. Russia Today is neither the Russian empire, nor the Soviet Union. If anything it is closer politically to what it would have been if the February revolution had continued and the October revolution never happened: A bourgeois state.