The “best” part about the “Hitler hypnotized us” narrative promoted by the krauts in their bloviating, soporific lectures is how it presents a completely counterfactual history devoid of the violent opposition to and clashes with fascists that characterized the Weimar Republic, all in order to pretend grandpappy didn’t deserve to be blown to a million pieces because everyone supported the Nazis and nobody knew right from wrong and morality wasn’t invented until 1945. Once upon a time I thought maybe there was some element of sincerity in German repentance culture, but no - it’s all self-serving, self-absorbed, self-flattering, self-interested, self- this and that; self-centered hagiographic self-praise that treats their unspeakable crimes as elite status cards to trot out.

These fucking krauts just can’t shut the fuck up about how they have some specialized knowledge of fascism because they’re krauts. Were you there? Were you around during the Nazi era? No? Then I fail to see how you know anything more or have any more expertise on the matter than Joe Pissmonger from Montana. Maybe if you picked up a fucking book sometime instead of insisting that being a kraut gives you special privilege to speak with no prior investigation.

But apparently Teutonic blood gives you divine insight into how fascism works. Looks like they haven’t moved past their Nazi genetic woo after all.

“I’m a German and I’m here to teach you how to avoid fascism by supporting the status quo” how about you deal with your own rapidly Nazifying shithole American province before lecturing others.

Be grateful the very idea of “Germany” wasn’t razed to the ground and scattered to the wind after your dear leader escorted himself off the premises.

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      Case in point: when Germany tried to intervene in the ICJ genocide case against Israel, Namibia issued an official statement:

      President Geingob said Germany could not “morally express commitment to the United Nations Convention against genocide, including atonement for the genocide in Namibia” and at the same time support Israel.

      “The German Government is yet to fully atone for the genocide it committed on Namibian soil,” he added.

      I can only imagine what kind of awkward silence resulted at the German foreign ministry as junior diplomats scrambled to figure exactly how genocidal Germany had been in Namibia.

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        the usual spiel I get about this is that the genocide of the herero and nama is some far past history, like roman conquests, as if it wasn’t like 30 years earlier than the genocide. 30 fucking years!

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        Love the video of the German diplomat trying to scold the Namibian president about accepting too many Chinese immigrants.

        Having the gall to be an official representative of a country that was both the former colonial overlord and comitted genocide and deciding to scold them about the lack of German communities compared to Chinese.

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    Be grateful the very idea of “Germany” wasn’t razed to the ground and scattered to the wind after your dear leader escorted himself out of the premises

    As someone who has to live here, I’m not. I wish it was. There is nothing about being german that I find appealling and wouldn’t cast off in moment given the chance. And no this isn’t some self-flagellation, I genuinely cannot think of a reason for why I might want to continue to associate myself with this country if I had an alternative.

    This article

    https://jewishcurrents.org/bad-memory-2

    is what finally put in words what I had always vibed and was the final nail in the coffin of what might have constituted a sense of attachment to my nationality.

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        Oh god no, the only thing worse than someone identifying as “german” is identifying as “bavarian” or “hessian” or some other failstate, since that’s actually socially acceptable to be proud of and they will channel all their need to feel superior into that identity instead. “german” at least comes with some historical baggage that keeps them from saying what they think.

        There is a concept of an immigrant german, but an “immigrant bavarian”? A “black bavarian”?

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          Alright, in that case, I guess it’s time to divide Germany into procedurally generated discontiguous blob-borders with procedurally generated gibberish names and national symbols. You are now a proud citizen of the Democratic Republic of Nichtdeutschmeer-Rheinenkrankenvogelwindendorf-Blinkenlichtenstein. Congrats!