The interview, which was hosted on X Spaces and scheduled to begin at 8PM ET Monday night, crashed immediately and didn’t begin until 42 minutes later.
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18 minutes after the conversation was supposed to begin, Musk claimed that X was the target of a “massive DDOS attack” that had made it impossible for the Space to proceed as planned.
The rest of X appears to be working normally, however, and a source at the company confirmed to The Verge that there wasn’t actually a denial-of-service attack. Another X staffer said there was a “99 percent” chance Elon was lying about an attack
But he’s always gotta be a victim–ddos makes him one. Those trans gender hackers are trying to make him look bad or whatever.
Too many people coming to watch reminds the alphas and lone wolves that there’s a lot of others alphas and lone wolves which kinda defeats the whole “there can only be 1” mentality a lot of them like to reserve for themselves. Ok so that’s a stretch but who tf knows with these people anymore
In which case it was a distributed denial of service. But it wasn’t an intentional attack, we wanted to hear you dig your graves more, it was the result of your shitty software not able to hold any kind of load.
Ever since Elon bought Twitter, he massively fired anyone involved in making it work. Now it runs like shit, and spews, mostly, shit.
It’s no shock that such an event (a widely-viewed like video event) would immediately cause it to crash, since anyone who knew about how to make this work left or was fired long ago, and the goose-steppers who stuck around for shit pay and worse treatment can’t do any better than this.
to a layman, it was an interview where trump layed out some of his economic plans and what he thinks are some problems, while musk tries to force his narrative to change his POV (e.g Trump doesnt care about climate change, Elon wants to shift his plans so that you invest in future technology that he down the line or already has companies in). Generally speaking its a lot of boogeyman stuff (especially on how he claims leftists want to release all people out of jail, and that the people in jail are primarily gang migrants).
of the several things I personally don’t agree with, theres like one thing I do agree with was his stance on Nuclear (which he believes ultimately is a good thing for energy) and that someone should rebrand Nuclear so that public acceptance of it is better.
It is weird how overlooked nuclear is in the US. I imagine both sides could get in on it if it either had better lobbying or at least didn’t have to compete with the respective oil/gas lobby on the right or the solar lobby on the left. (It’s certainly a left leaning option if people weren’t spooked by it).
I’ve been seeing people saying we should be building molten salt thorium reactors since before Obama was elected.
Not… politicians… but various physicists and economists whom apparently no one listens to.
I think that from a PR standpoint there are multiple problems:
You have to come up with soundbites to explain how Thorium reactors are not capable of Chernobyling or Three Mile Islanding.
Oil and Gas won’t like this and Republicans in general hate spending money on infrastructure.
From the left and center you still have a strong number of people who think nuclear power is horrible for the environment and doesn’t count as ‘sustainable’.
Having to educate the general American public on anything with nuance or complexity is a massive chore. People here seriously complained that solar panels will use up all the sun’s energy. This is all assuming the various oil/gas companies don’t spin up propaganda at full speed to make shit up about nuclear energy.
Back in the early 2010s my home state, Maryland, was ready to go in and double our current nuclear capacity, which would have put us in a place that, by 2024, would have all but erased fossil fuels from electricity generation in the state.
We were denied by the Obama administration. For ‘security concerns’ over importing specialists and materials.
It’s actually a result of the Cold War. There’s a lot of overlap between environmental and anti-war groups in the US, and during the 60s and 70s sentiment against nuclear weapons started picking up steam. Then after Three Mile Island and Chernobyl, that sentiment entered the mainstream, expanding to also include nuclear energy in general. Since coal was still king back then, most energy companies didn’t really care to try to change the new public disapproval of nuclear energy, so it’s mostly persisted into the present day.
This is it. Nuclear is horrendously expensive to commission and decommission. Onshore wind is the cheapest energy there is, and solar isn’t expensive either. But the fossil fuel industry can’t stand the price comparison nor the reduction in demand/scarcity, so in corporate run America, it doesn’t happen at scale unless some politicians who actually want to make things better get real power.
what happened with the livestream? i did not (and will not) watch it but I’m curious what problems they had
https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/12/24219121/donald-trump-elon-musk-interview-x-twitter-crashes
That’s such a stupid lie too. A much better one would be “so many people were trying to watch it and it crashed!”
With all the bullshit these people spew on a daily basis you’d think they’d be better at it…
But he’s always gotta be a victim–ddos makes him one. Those trans gender hackers are trying to make him look bad or whatever.
Too many people coming to watch reminds the alphas and lone wolves that there’s a lot of others alphas and lone wolves which kinda defeats the whole “there can only be 1” mentality a lot of them like to reserve for themselves. Ok so that’s a stretch but who tf knows with these people anymore
More like Elon’s narcissism won’t let him admit that his beloved company made a mistake.
Then again, how hard would it be to DDOS a live stream? I would probably celebrate if it turns out the gay furry hackers came back for round 2.
In which case it was a distributed denial of service. But it wasn’t an intentional attack, we wanted to hear you dig your graves more, it was the result of your shitty software not able to hold any kind of load.
Wikipedia has an entry on it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdot_effect
While I’m not sure that a flash crowd is a DoS, it is extremely similar to a DDoS attack making it difficult to detect.
I think a flash crowd is distinct from a DoS, tho. Even if flash crowds can often be initially categorised as a DDoS
When you’re an idiot, a DDOS attack and actual web traffic are indistinguishable.
Especially when you fire/drive out the majority of your operations and security teams.
What, Musk lying?? How unusual.
“by the Dems” of course. It’s not precise unless you’re creating an enemy. With followers adding on crazy shit like “must be the FBI and CIA”.
Couldn’t be that Musk doesn’t know how to run Twitter. No. A conspiracy makes much more sense.
You accidentally forgot to instill fear. The Dems sounds harmless. It has to be ‘radical left Antifa baby murderer hunter killers’.
Me: Please be the gay furry hackers!
So you’re saying there’s still a chance?
Ever since Elon bought Twitter, he massively fired anyone involved in making it work. Now it runs like shit, and spews, mostly, shit.
It’s no shock that such an event (a widely-viewed like video event) would immediately cause it to crash, since anyone who knew about how to make this work left or was fired long ago, and the goose-steppers who stuck around for shit pay and worse treatment can’t do any better than this.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Don’t forget the time he barged into Twitter HQ and just started unplugging racks because the team was moving “too slow”.
I respect that the tech contractor noped out and refused to help him move the racks. Musk had to get security to help him 🤣
to a layman, it was an interview where trump layed out some of his economic plans and what he thinks are some problems, while musk tries to force his narrative to change his POV (e.g Trump doesnt care about climate change, Elon wants to shift his plans so that you invest in future technology that he down the line or already has companies in). Generally speaking its a lot of boogeyman stuff (especially on how he claims leftists want to release all people out of jail, and that the people in jail are primarily gang migrants).
of the several things I personally don’t agree with, theres like one thing I do agree with was his stance on Nuclear (which he believes ultimately is a good thing for energy) and that someone should rebrand Nuclear so that public acceptance of it is better.
Except that Trump thought Elon was talking about nuclear weapons.
Was that the part where Trump claimed to have done “the most deregulation and restrictions”?
while there was arms talk in the chat, the nuclear section was not part of weapons, it was definately part of energy policy.
It is weird how overlooked nuclear is in the US. I imagine both sides could get in on it if it either had better lobbying or at least didn’t have to compete with the respective oil/gas lobby on the right or the solar lobby on the left. (It’s certainly a left leaning option if people weren’t spooked by it).
I’ve been seeing people saying we should be building molten salt thorium reactors since before Obama was elected.
Not… politicians… but various physicists and economists whom apparently no one listens to.
I think that from a PR standpoint there are multiple problems:
You have to come up with soundbites to explain how Thorium reactors are not capable of Chernobyling or Three Mile Islanding.
Oil and Gas won’t like this and Republicans in general hate spending money on infrastructure.
From the left and center you still have a strong number of people who think nuclear power is horrible for the environment and doesn’t count as ‘sustainable’.
Having to educate the general American public on anything with nuance or complexity is a massive chore. People here seriously complained that solar panels will use up all the sun’s energy. This is all assuming the various oil/gas companies don’t spin up propaganda at full speed to make shit up about nuclear energy.
Back in the early 2010s my home state, Maryland, was ready to go in and double our current nuclear capacity, which would have put us in a place that, by 2024, would have all but erased fossil fuels from electricity generation in the state.
We were denied by the Obama administration. For ‘security concerns’ over importing specialists and materials.
We were importing them from the EU.
Anti-nuclear paranoia has been deeply damaging.
It’s actually a result of the Cold War. There’s a lot of overlap between environmental and anti-war groups in the US, and during the 60s and 70s sentiment against nuclear weapons started picking up steam. Then after Three Mile Island and Chernobyl, that sentiment entered the mainstream, expanding to also include nuclear energy in general. Since coal was still king back then, most energy companies didn’t really care to try to change the new public disapproval of nuclear energy, so it’s mostly persisted into the present day.
It’s not overlooked it’s simply not economical. If you want an energy transition towards sustainability, renewables are the way to go.
This is it. Nuclear is horrendously expensive to commission and decommission. Onshore wind is the cheapest energy there is, and solar isn’t expensive either. But the fossil fuel industry can’t stand the price comparison nor the reduction in demand/scarcity, so in corporate run America, it doesn’t happen at scale unless some politicians who actually want to make things better get real power.