• optissima@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    That act in itself is ethically neutral.

    Why are you implying that legality has any impact on the ethics of the situation?

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      3 months ago

      Although legality and ethics do not always coincide, they often influence each other. Many laws are based on ethical principles, such as the protection of human rights, wildlife, or the environment. They reflect a societal consensus that actions that violate these principles are both unethical and should be illegal.

      In this case, RFK Jr. most likely violated several laws like the Marine Mammal Protection Act (MMPA) and the Endangered Species Act (ESA) which make it illegal to disturb, remove, or possess any part of a whale, even if it’s dead, without a permit. This is not “normal” behavior.

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      3 months ago

      That act in itself is ethically neutral.

      What makes you the arbiter of what is ethical?

      Why are you implying that legality has any impact on the ethics of the situation?

      I’m not.

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        3 months ago

        What makes you the arbiter of what is ethical?

        Aren’t you the one that asked if it was ethical? Did you not want an answer?

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          3 months ago

          Sure. Why is it “ethically neutral” to expose a child to such things on a regular basis? Again, this was supposedly a day-to-day occurrence.

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        3 months ago

        You just asked me for the answer, so in this case, you! Your second sentence does imply that you are, as the “not even X, let alone Y” implies that to reach Y you must pass X.

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          3 months ago

          Please answer the question: Why is it ethically neutral to intentionally expose a child (he wasn’t passing by, he found out it happened and drove there with his daughter) to such things on a day-to-day basis?

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            3 months ago

            Its not my onus to answer that, that’s akin to trying to prove a negative. As the one making the claim, you are supposed to try to prove it. How is exposure to a whale carcass unethical?

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              3 months ago

              Because exposing children to traumatic things can cause psychological issues and watching someone carve up a whale with a chainsaw is pretty damn traumatic for a normal child.

              Let me guess: “Prove that it’s traumatic.”