Dude just loves riling himself up into a frenzy, doesn’t he? I guess he was mad that Hasan was going to interview Obama, which never even happened, and now he thinks Hasan is a “genocide supporter” because a random YouTube clip he came across that said “Hasan supports Kamala’s policies”, which he never even watched and was most likely just clipped. Hasan isn’t perfect, but fuck, you think at least him going to the DNC as a journalist would be considered fair from BE. Wild.
Hasan seems to be one of the most divisive things on this site lol
Hasan is generally extremely treat-brained, and he isn’t as harsh on liberalism or as supportive of AES as us. The difference in opinion is whether he serves the purpose of radicalizing liberals, or preventing further radicalization.
I’m of the opinion that he generally works more for radicalization than against it.
we can all agree hes cute and that obviously makes up for his flaws, right :thonk:
I’ve been twitch-free for about four years and honestly? I feel so much better regarding my ability to focus.
Reddit-free for about a year, unbelievably positive results.
I’ve even limited my time on Lemmy.ml and the lack of constant liberalism has done wonders.
I abandoned reddit when they banned r/cth because we kept posting John Brown memes
That may have been their excuse to pull the trigger but the reason they banned us was because the sub was becoming very well known, with posts regularly making it to the front page. During a time when reddit was really starting to actively sanitize itself of any actual leftism (for the sake of advertisers, profit, etc. as well as for the sake of becoming the major NATO propaganda hub that it is today) r/cth represented the complete opposite of the direction they were steering the platform. It was quite literally a purge of leftists across the platform and it would have happened whether or not we toed the line by not saying slave owners deserve death anymore or posting John Brown memes. In short, the sub was just starting to get some hints of more mainstream internet attention and there was no way in hell they were going to let that stand.
As always, John Brown was correct
He’s just Democracy Now with parasocial characteristics.
people can’t criticize their parasocial friends
You’re the one in here going to bat for an aussie settler asshole who only ever punches left.
literally never happened, never have said a single good thing about BE in my life
Are you unable to read or just straight up lying?
You seem pretty invested in defending him here.
This dunk was all about him being a hypocrit and your whole screed in this thread is some weellll ackshually shit.
Don’t message me again.
hypocrites can still have a correct point
Honestly I’ve seen you commenting on this topic way more.
That’s now how disengagement works.
Okay disengage
Maybe it’s just an artefact of the inherent tribalism in any active movement. I haven’t really made up my mind fully on this, but it does seem more and more true that “in group” fighting over differences is more vitriolic than out group?
In-group fighting can seem more intense because mutual understanding is assumed, vs outgroup. Marxists can laugh at liberals but tend to take other Marxists seriously enough to get upset, as an example
Its not in group out group fighting its indovidualism. Individuals thinking they know the way and need to attack others for not thinking that way, instead of being systematic about pushing everybody forward.
defending treatbrained streamers as your vanguard of systematic “pushing everybody forward” is actually an extremely capitalist-realist analysis. the way forwards is not twitch streamers, stop trying to make capitalist entertainment products into your friends and also the revolution.
Even Hasan would agree with this analysis lol.
That being said, he did say in a recent stream that “you aren’t going to vote the revolution in” so I’d say he’s more then a “treatbrained streamer”.
Im not talking about streamers i mean on the left in general. Before there was twitter there were 400 groups writing position papers on each others position papers and getting nothing done
before twitter there was a world communist movement and revolution in over 50 countries
Yea good thing the first world had all those successful communist revolutions that definitely werent impacted by individualism to the highest degree. I dont give a fuck about any of these internet people so i dont know why ur so aggressive.
I’m aggressive because it’s frustrating having to deal with 500 eternal waves of radlib children who repeat the same dumb lib shit over and over to defend what are essentially celebrities.
Mayb you should just tell people to logoff and then logoff
We live in capitalism. Whatever method we use, capitalism will be involved. If someone makes money on Twitch while helpfully radicalizing more people in the right direction, I see that as a good thing. It’s definitely worked in the opposite direction to make reactionaries, and there’s no reason to give up those methods.
It’s like how electoralism won’t save us but by running and being crushed Bernie helped radicalized a lot of people. He definitely did more good doing that and introducing socialist ideas, making more future anarchists and socialists than basically every socialist I know of, than every every podcaster or reading circle I’ve seen since.
I mean, the 2024 election year is very dead. You had at least Bernie Sanders sheep dogging people into the Democratic Party in 2016 and 2020. Now, there’s not even a need for a sheep dog. You’re a Trump supporter if you bring up anything. Like, I don’t really think a lot of people are radicalizing as stated. Something isn’t working as believed.
It’s not great, especially materially, but narrative-wise things look better than when I was a kid in the 90’s: the USSR had fallen, and everyone agreed communism had failed. You couldn’t even say the word “socialist” let alone “communist” when I was younger, let alone anyone admit they were one. I think there’s just been a liberal backlash to these changes as they try to reconstitute control and power of the narrative, but there’s been progress.
The main problem as I see it is just we’re not organizing fast enough for the problems capitalism are causing, like climate change, and also foreign policy is still dog shit among most progressives. Also, I worry that this revolutionary atmosphere happened in the 60’s too and was dismantled by the police state, so I’m hoping we learned some lessons from that time somehow.
Wonder if that has anything to do with kids sitting inside watching a guy be “radical” on their behalf and feeling like they’ve done something?
Oh you mean like BE? Who I am fairly certain hasnver done any on the ground praxis in his life.
Hasan is a pipeline!
A pipeline to where?
Voting Democrat while holding one’s nose instead of doing it happily
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This ain’t it
ummm actually skibbidi toilet is the communist manifesto of our time and here in this twenty part thesis i will outline why…
Found BE’s alt
Dude I don’t even watch Hasan. I’ve learned more about him here on hexbear than I have anywhere else lol. But the point is that I now see more kids complain about modern imperialism and talk about other concepts I would’ve never imagined could’ve pierced the liberal media bubble who mention him than at any other time in life (since maybe peak Chapo?). You’ve got to adapt to the times and environment we have, and start somewhere.
Or you could let that whole audience get scooped up by Tim Pool, Destiny, Joe Rogan, Vaush, don’t know who else is popular on the streaming circuit but you get my point. Because, believe it or not, consumed media does make a HUGE difference. It’s half the reason this current fight is so damn hard right right now, because of manufactured consent in the media.
You’re the one defending the treat brain streamer lol
again, stop lying. You are a LIAR. Stop LYING. Bad faith LIAR
It is very very clear you are defending the aussie expat here.
nope, never have and never will. you will continue to LIE about it though