Trump refuses to say if he wants Ukraine to win the war | Semafor
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During the first presidential debate, the former president said he wanted the "war to stop" when asked if he wanted Ukraine to win against Russia.
  • eleitl@lemm.eeEnglish
    41·
    3 months ago

    This war started more than a decade ago. Russian Federation only became a party some two years ago.

      • eleitl@lemm.eeEnglish
        42·
        3 months ago

        Do not expect to find facts on Wikipedia when the overall propaganda volume is deafening.

        • jabjoe@feddit.ukEnglish
          2·
          3 months ago

          Generally I found it’s best to not argue with the “wisdom of the crowds” unless you really know the domain, and even then, with care.

          Sorry it doesn’t say what you want.

      • MisterScruffy@lemmy.mlEnglish
        23·
        3 months ago

        The overthrow of a democratically elected president? That is what caused Eastern provinces to go into rebellion. Forcing those Eastern provinces to go back to being ruled by a pronato kyiv is impossible and will just lead to more fighting that will resolve nothing

        • jabjoe@feddit.ukEnglish
          21·
          3 months ago

          I’m sure those living in the seized parts of Ukraine are living in more of democracy now… /s

          • MisterScruffy@lemmy.mlEnglish
            11·
            3 months ago

            Democracy never exists in an active warzone what does that have to do with how the conflict started?

            • jabjoe@feddit.ukEnglish
              11·
              3 months ago

              I’m sure if Russia wins, it will bring its conquered lands to highs of democracy the rest of Russia enjoys… and the citizens will absolutely notice the difference.

              • MisterScruffy@lemmy.mlEnglish
                11·
                3 months ago

                You’re changing the subject away from how the conflict started because you don’t know what your talking about

                • jabjoe@feddit.ukEnglish
                  1·
                  3 months ago

                  Hands up, no my area. I’m not a Ukrainian. I known a few. They tell me Russia attacked their country. As does ever news outlet that I trust. So yer, sorry random person on the internet, I’m going with their narrative over yours.