• drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Yeah you are. Real nice that you expect us to raise a generation of boys to have to see themselves as monsters.

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      2 months ago

      No one is asking them to see themselves as monsters? You’re creating a problem where there isn’t one.

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            2 months ago

            children already know to be better than bears, what this argument provides for them is a window into what other people assume based only on gender

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                2 months ago

                this is a trick quesion, they’re not

                when evauluating risk you have to take into account the general population, and the general population of bears is not exactly friendly

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                  2 months ago

                  as is the general population of men, I think you guys missed the point of that whole discussion

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                    1 month ago

                    I don’t think you understand bigotry the way you pretend. I remember what my dad was like before he started watching fox and the way it rotted his brain and how it turned him from a reasonable well spoken human to a republican bigot. I see that in a lot of liberal discourse, but people think they are special and will never fall for the same shit that turned the party of Lincoln to the party of trump.

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      2 months ago

      No one is telling boys that they are monsters.

      It is helpful that they know there are humans in the world who behave like monsters, and that some of them are men who target people who they perceive to be weaker than themselves.

      So children, women, other men who are either physically smaller or in a lower position of power. That’s what they need to know. So they can protect themselves, and help stop others from becoming someone else’s monster if the opportunity arises.

      Doing things like speaking out against sexual harassment, and calling out bullying behavior, this is everyone’s responsibility btw. Not just men’s and boys, but this is what needs to be taught so world can suck less.