• Justin@lemmy.jlh.name
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    2 months ago

    I think performance was part of Chrome’s success, but there was also all the memes in 2010 about installing chrome to replace IE, and the ads that Google ran on their search page. I don’t think Pocket came out until Firefox was already deep into the decline. I do think Chrome held onto those users because of their ram efficiency at the time, and nice features like built-in translate. Now, users can’t switch because the web depends on Chrome, just like back in the IE days.

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      2 months ago

      Despite my above rant, I still use Firefox as my primary browser. The web works absolutely fine on it. I think I’ve encountered one site that required chrome to work correctly in the last year and that’s a huge improvement over where we were back in the early 2000’s with IE.

      No, there’s other reasons why people don’t switch, compatibility is not the issue.

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        In the past i switched to Firefox for a few days, and the memory usage of google (gmail, calendar) was enough to make me switch back.

        This time i did thunderbird too. The memory usage is still bad, but i was able to stay… for now.

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        2 months ago

        I have to switch to chromium often, unfortunately. Various websites are untested with Firefox, and many apps such as Teams are not compatible with FF. Probably better than the early 2000’s but still really bad.

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          2 months ago

          I use teams on Firefox and haven’t encountered any issues. Admittedly I only use it occasionally, as I do mainly use the desktop app.

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            I think they added some compatibility in the past year or so but I had issues detecting my microphone on Linux just 2 weeks ago. I’ve had some smaller ecommerce sites fail to load properly on Firefox/Librewolf, Red Hat’s Training website doesn’t work on Firefox, and also some features on apps like Google Meet and Miro are unavailable. It’s nothing that makes firefox unusable, and I can always open up ungoogled chromium when needed, but it is a serious issue for browser diversity and competition that the web has defaulted to chrome now.

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              1 month ago

              At least it’s notable when a website doesn’t work correctly in Firefox rather than being a frequent annoyance

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      I think performance was part of Chrome’s success

      I don’t think I fully believe that, normies don’t care about how fast a page loads and the proof of that is that they were using IE for so long.

      Now, users can’t switch because the web depends on Chrome, just like back in the IE days.

      What? I’ve been using FF since 2006, or something like that, how is the web dependent on chrome?

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        It’s one factor among several. Another large factor is that Chrome was easier to deploy and manage in a corporate environment for many years. Really until Edge came out a whole lot of people had it foisted on them via their IT department at work, I’m sure many still do but Edge has definitely changed things and made that less common since it gets included with the OS. Combined with Google constantly pushing it everywhere these workers were guaranteed to encounter the option to download it at home even if they didn’t explicitly seek it out, and since they already used it at work it wasn’t a scary download it was familiar and made by that great company Google that everyone is so impressed by. They click the download and that’s that, they don’t even know Firefox is an option.