• StalinStan [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      Everything is getting worse all the time. We can at least enjoy it a little. Democratization of the tools of artistic creation has historically only led to better art

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        Having a program make art for you isnt democratizing the tools of art. The artist who created the Mona Lisa was Da Vinci. The merchant who gave Da Vinci money and said “paint a picture of my wife in front of a landscape” was the artist’s patron. You are not the artist when you tell the plagiarism machine to make a picture for you. You are the patron. This is obvious and self-evident.

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          You say that. Picture Ao3 after robust AI video tools are widely available. I am not hurt that I will be able to get a superwholock episode of Seinfeld with the real actors reading terrible dialog written by a 12 year old girl then they all kiss.

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              Will I find you there on r/neoliberal? Cause you seem to be mad that AI interferes with people’s ability to make money.

              I am here trying to be grillpilled about it. More people will have more treats in ways less reliant on the societal superstructure. That prefigures some amount of people’s art and culture. Which is good for the revolutionary consciousness. Overall it is a small thing with interesting possible effects. I see it as possibly being enriching and liberator to the spirit of the common worker and that is p cool if that happens.

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                Artists are proletariat who sell their labour. AI tech bros are a bourgeois who steal the artist’s labour and profit from it. Again, this is really obvious to the point where I don’t know if you’re arguing in bad faith.

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                  Yes and AI represents more people getting to make art. It will be like when digital art replaced regular art. People still love old kinds of art but now more people will be able to make more things and that is in the end better for everyone involved.

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                    Yes and AI represents more people getting to make art.

                    But they’re not getting to make art they’re having a plagiarism machine make it for them. A person at a restaurant is not a cook because he orders the food. And the means of production for art are a pencil and paper, it’s already pretty fucking accessible.

                    that is in the end better for everyone involved.

                    Destroying the environment at a staggering pace and and giving bourgeois a reason to devalue the labour of artists, writers, programmers, musicians, lawyers and god knows how many other types of worker is not a net good for the world. You just want your treats and you don’t wanna feel bad about it.