• nforminvasion@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Here’s our belief system: don’t kill or hurt animals as much as is possible.

    We don’t need to theologize and systematize our ideology because it’s a movement with very little requirement to be part of.

    There are whole foods plant based people, there are vegans who eat fun junk food (that’s not a judgment statement BTW). There are people from all over life who woke up one day and thought about their life choices. There really are not many other requirements than don’t exploit animals or consume them or their products.

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      3 months ago

      Here’s our belief system: don’t kill or hurt animals as much as is possible.

      Right, but by what is the ethical delineation between say a krill and a mushroom?

      What is the difference between lesser evolved animals and highly evolved plants or microbes?

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        3 months ago

        One feels pain and has a brain. The other does not feel pain. Also one is an animal with a much more complex body than a mushroom. That makes for a more complex creature which can feel more and experience the world more.

        I’m not saying krill are moral philosophers or poets. But they are much more advanced than mushrooms

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          3 months ago

          One feels pain and has a brain.

          There is no scientific consensus that invertebrates on the evolutionary scale of krill feel pain, and a ganglia isn’t exactly what passes as a brain in vertebrates.

          That makes for a more complex creature which can feel more and experience the world more.

          I think that’s highly reductive, especially considering that we continue to discover more and more about mushrooms. We already know that mushrooms are capable of learning, individual decision making, and have a short term memory.

          We cant really make a qualified position of their complexity because we still don’t understand a lot about mushrooms.