• Llituro [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    banned for a sanctioned event at Twitch’s own convention is a fucking insane thing to do to them. these myopic zionist pieces of shit aren’t content with violently starving Palestinians and Lebanese people in those countries, so apparently they have to try to starve the vocal ones that live in amerikkka too. interesting that they didn’t ban the actual Jewish person that was part of the same event, whose idea it was, seemingly. they also put one of the Arab people that got banned (denims) at the bottom of the “loves sabra” tier, how does that stack with “Sabra = Jew” calculus that the ADL is pushing?

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      Well you see Sabra could also mean “israeli-born person” so it’s actually super antisemitic to talk about the shitty grainy hummus.

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        The term alludes to a tenacious, thorny desert plant, known in English as prickly pear, with a thick skin that conceals a sweet, softer interior. The cactus is compared to Israeli Jews, who are supposedly tough on the outside, but delicate and sweet on the inside.

        which ya know, additionally silly when you consider the plant is from the Americas, and was widely used in colonial states as a living fence

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          “Sweet and delicate inside” is a hell of a way to describe “full of rancid shit and bloody entrails” tbh, they’re so full of themselves lol…

          What part is the “sweetness” again? It’s certainly not given to the indigenous Arabs- so who is it for? Non-Arabs, like the Asian laborers they prevent from fraternizing with locals or having sex whatsoever in the country (racist racial purity bullshit from the sounds of it)? To their fellow Jews, like the Ethiopian Jews they have forcefully sterilized, the Yemeni and other MENA Jews they discriminate against, or all those Jewish people who reject their settler-colonialism- or even those fellow Zionists who simply have concerns or get in the way (that Hannibal protocol lol)?

          What sweetness exactly are we talking about lol… they may as well have called the Nazis sweet, their attitude in some ways even is more repulsive than that.

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    Frogan, Vio, Denims, and Capri are all friends of Hasanabi. I think they’re all Leftist. Frogan is a muslim woman and said she hopes that American soldiers get PTSD for helping Israel (based). Vio is comedy twitch stream, but I think with Leftist sympathy. Vio also lives with / is dating Central_Committee (Mike_From_PA on twitter), which is the second largest self-proclaimed socialist news channel on twitch. Denims is a woman on twitch who talks about some Leftism stuff. Capri aka CapriSunnPapi is Palestinian/Lebanese man. Frogan and Capri both have family who live in Lebanon. I think these are actually cool people, not vaushite people.

    here’s a video where Frogan and Capri talk about their family in Lebanon. They talk about their families being bombed by Israel.
    https://youtu.be/zrnc6j6zNy4?t=1501

    The bans were probably lead by Ethan Klein and Destiny’s community.

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      Ethan and Destiny are taking credit for the bans and gloating on their shows, in reality the ADL claimed they spoke directly with Twitch staff which was followed by the bans

      This shit is so obviously racist, straight up targeted harassment of Arab and pro-Palestine streamers by zionists and their right-wing allies

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        Ethan can go fuck himself. Typical Zionist Jewish supremacists piece of shit. The only issue ever is anti semitism for him. He doesn’t give a shit about anything else. He’s so obsessed he has to create a problem when ther isnt one. When you’re on the same side as destiny you’ve completely lost the plot. Fucking assholes like these just making everything worse makes me such a pro doomer and the way things are going with the environment I guess I have something to be happy about.

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          And to be more specific, it could be based on an insinuation that the hummus brand name was code for “Israeli-borne Jew” that I saw ethan saying it’s a thing based on comments on the D psychos.

          Which is of course 100% not real but who gives a shit right.

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            Do you want to know something funny? The term Sabra comes from the name of the prickly pear cactus plant in Hebrew and the settlers assumed the cactus was a native plant to the territory. So they thought a plant represented them that they assumed was native to the land, but actually was not at all native to the land.

            Since the early days of Jewish immigration to then-Mandate Palestine, Israelis have called the ideal Israeli, who is born in the country, a sabra: tough on the outside like the thorny fruit, soft on the inside like its sweet flesh, and native to the soil like the plant. (Although like many Israelis, sabra is actually an immigrant, having arrived from the Americas via Spain several centuries ago.)

            https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/what-does-sabra-mean

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        I bet the only reason they banned that one smelly guy who supported genocide for 2 weeks was so they could do this and claim they are doing “both sides” and not just serving the ADL

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      i mean yes in the end it’s all streamer drama (to all those that will be like “who are these people ?” to sound cool)

      but at the core but it does demonstrate the outsized influence that can be deployed against even the mildly leftist pipeline types. there is precious little in this space for younger people that isn’t chud, chud-adjacent, straight fascist, or fascist adjacent zionazi.

      it does show how quickly and throughly the entire tiny ecosystem of leftist creators could be absolutely shut down if there was a cross platform coordinated ban. imagine just every leftist instantly having all their socials closed, banned from every platform, utterly silenced and how little anyone would be able to do about it.

      because it’s coming

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        Hopefully some of these big communities will see the writing on the wall and move to places like lemmy, matrix, etc. If all the big leftist streamers got together they could probably afford to make their own site they control, and multistream to it, and twitch or something that way when a ban comes they have it to fall back on.

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        I would add that despite these people being streamers, their communities also do some activism in real life, like participating in the antiwar student encampment protests and other protests in support of Palestinians.

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          oh yeah. they are a million times better then other political streamers for this reason alone. most do walk the walk or at least raise money for causes that actually help people

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      Or the ADL: https://x.com/ADL/status/1848501823100932346

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    There’s 100% a life-destroying defamation suit to make against Ethan and Stephen “grandpa owned slaves” Bonnercelli opening here. Ethan especially, stupidly, has been lying openly repeatedly. Obviously Amazon and the Twitch CEO specifically can now be roped into a civil suit and also maybe defamation if their internal reasoning for this is literally “because Arabs.”

    The first two could be sued by “normal” people and extract ass-destroying settlements. Unfortunately due to Hellscape and all that, Amazon could only be taken on with a chance at winning by ACLU or some other free speech organization with millions to throw at causes. The chances of actually successfully extracting a win from the company is probably not high enough (even though they did clearly cause undue harm and their TOS wasn’t even breached- not that TOS even matters) for them to engage. Nor are the consequences high enough. As in, they aren’t going to prison (yet… let the Nazis keep chipping away).

    But I do hope Ethan is sued into oblivion. I haven’t seen anything from Nazielli because I don’t watch his dumb shit. If he’s said anything even 1% as defamatory as Ethan in the last month or so, rope his ass in too along with any other of the pro-genocide dumbasses. The case would be pretty straight forward. Nothing to do with actual pro-Palestinian sentiments just a pure factual look at “Was this anti-semitic… no, clearly not, Ethan, bend over, reach into deep asshole, pull out cash. Steve, you’re next.”

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      Honest question: how much would such a lawsuit rely on the definition of antisemitism, and how much of an issue is it that the US congress has been making a specific push to include anti-zionism in the definition of antisemitism?

      I honestly kinda doubt our justice system would give them a fair definition right now…

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        I dunno. Not a lawyer, etc.

        I would say it’s probably relevant that she and Twitch are in California which to my knowledge has not adopted that insane, ironically antisemitic “antisemitism definition.”

        Also that law was for specific purposes relating to funding by the US gov to people and colleges specifically. Ie if they are ruled antisemitic (a college, etc.) they are disqualified from federal funds. I understand you were asking, not suggesting or whatever, so, I’ll just leave it at that. It would depend upon the judge and any appeals that came (writing this from the POV of Frogan, main target here)… assuming she even won. I would say in my understanding of the law, it would be brought up by the defendant, 100%, but if the judge is a state judge and actually being “fair” and following the correct procedures… then they’d be seeking out like “is she specifically saying antisemitic things? Is she holding up known symbols? Like what is the basis for calling this specific incident antisemitic?” On the other hand, she would be arguing she did nothing to lead to that assessment by the defendant. That they knowingly, falsely spread this narrative despite immediately being pushed back on by the involved parties with explanations, that they did not retract the statement and they did all of this with clear, stated, malicious intent to have her livelihood cutoff. (Maybe I should’ve been a lawyer… nah, kinda hate lawyers)

        But, I concede, this all does hinge on people being fair. I think this case is so far beyond the pale, so egregious, that even a hardcore Zionist judge would find that it was defamation if only to preserve their own reputation… such that it matters. But, again, who knows. People have gotten away with far worse and people have been successfully “punished” for far less.

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      He loooovveeeessss to talk about all his big Ws in court. I think his legal battles have stoked his ego so much, and a FAT L like that makes me salivate. (Ive just finally canceled my membership, watches regularly up until he started bringing the antisemitism shit up every fucking day)

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          Wait- I haven’t watched any H3 for years now. I did watch the leftovers show but even dropped that too once Ethan decided he was would come in weekly and read Destiny’s “debate” talking points at Hasan and then refuse to actually respond with a counter point… and also refuse to concede that he’s a dumbass.

          But did he lose that suit? Never have I felt simultaneously happy and yet disappointed at the same time. Because that guy kinda legitimately sucks… but so does Ethan. Hmm.

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            I think it’s still ongoing, but he lost his anti-SLAPP motion in California, which happens like 10% of the time, and basically means the judge felt there was enough evidence to prove that he knowingly spread false info.

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              I do remember thinking Ethan was probably going too hard over nothing… he gets in these very personal beefs that everyone else and the audience is eye rolling and muttering “come on, dude…”

              That’s definitely a let them fight situation for me though. Won’t catch me defending either side

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    zionist einsatzgruppen openly exterminating people in Gaza right now, and these are the “rules” the west is enforcing. not international law, just Calvinball and the ADL calls the shots.

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      I am so sick of this weaselly bullshit where Zionists pretend that they’re poor discriminated victims and get people silenced for “antisemitism.” Using the banner of anti-racism to facilitate actual genocide.

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    Ethan KKKlein of Heinrich3Himler3 and the ADL teamed up for this one, honestly we’re lucky hasan isnt getting it too because Ethan is leveraging his huge platform against him

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    Twitch once again proving the whole point of their site is to create the most racist community online. They only banned Israel because having them in the site is like doping.

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      They didn’t “ban” Israel - that was another half-cocked Diverocelli lie. Twitch put out a statement on it, but basically they turned off the ability to signup via email in the days following Oct 7 last year because they didn’t want people uploading, you know, all the shit going on. They said they forgot to turn it back on for some segment of the region and have now fixed it. Also, they turned off new account signups for not just Israel Israel but the entire region occupied by Israel. So, another point against the dumbass Bonerelli fans thinking they had a point. If anything it sounds like Twitch is anti-Palestine as in they hate the land and anyone living there. They don’t care who lives there, just ban the region (sarcasm, obviously)