The boy, 17, who was wearing a shirt bearing an image of Trump extending his middle finger, was part of a group antagonizing ralliers, the woman said.

Nothing helps stop Trump bleeding support from the senior woman demographic quite like a young whippersnapper punching a 70-year-old woman to the ground for her support of Harris.

  • MorrisonMotel6@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    You were also probably electioneering, which you definitely shouldn’t do, even though I agree with your politics

    • archonetEnglish
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      • piccolo@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        Did you even look up the actual code?

        © No person, when within the polling place, shall electioneer or solicit votes for any political party, political body or candidate, nor shall any written or printed matter be posted up within the said room, except as required by this act.

        It makes no particular distinction how electioneering is done. Just none is allowed in any form.

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          • piccolo@sh.itjust.works
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            2 months ago

            Dont quit your day job to persue a job in law.

            It doesnt need to say it explicitly and its wording is all exclusive.

            Or are you going to try and argue a shirt that litterally says “Vote for <canidate>” isnt soliciting because “the law didnt say anything about shirts!”

            And for the record i did not say you were electioneering. Merely pointing out clothing can fall into the category of electioneering…

            • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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              2 months ago

              dude lives in PA and you’re going to lecture him on law. 🤣

              PA residents are such a pita, legally speaking, that there are entire call centers dedicated to handling support for PA residents.

              Say what you will, PA residents know their rights and what laws protect them.

              I’ll trust his legal judgement before any armchair lawyer any day.

              • piccolo@sh.itjust.works
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                2 months ago

                Except it very clearly states whats prohibited. It doesnt need to list every possible ways you could solicit because simplely stating “soliciting is prohibited” is clear.

                Do you think murder isn’t actually murder because the law didnt specific the method that is required to be considered murder was commited?..

                BTW, Its quite ironic your calling someone stupid for lack of reading comprehension. Do continue, lets see how far you’re willing to dig yourself deeper into this rabbit hole.

                  • jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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                    2 months ago

                    Laws on electioneering can be found state by state here:

                    https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/electioneering-prohibitions

                    Since this happened in Florida:

                    Fla. Stat. § 102.031

                    150 ft. of the entrance to a polling place, early voting site, or office of the supervisor

                    Campaign materials/signs/banners/literature

                    Influencing voters/soliciting votes/political persuasion

                    Circulating petitions/soliciting signatures

                    polls/exit polls – Note: there is an exception allowing exit polls

                    Would not seem to apply to t-shirts or hats, but would apply to signs, banners, etc. within 150 feet.

      • Zaktor@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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        2 months ago

        I once drove too fast near a cop and they didn’t pull me over, therefore speeding is legal. And the law doesn’t define specifically what acts can “cause a disturbance”, so that means you just can’t be arrested for it. Right?

        Cops regularly miss violations or just don’t feel it’s worth enforcing them when they may have more important things to do. And laws that don’t define specifics mean the laws can generally be applied broadly, not that they can’t be applied at all. You’re in more danger of running afoul of a law that doesn’t define specific acts it applies to, not less. You may be able to get the case thrown out in court if they consider it too ill-defined, but that’s the sort of thing you pay an expensive lawyer to argue, not a reliable get out of jail free card.

        All that said, you’re actually right about apparel not being considered electioneering in Pennsylvania. The reasoning for why you came to that belief is bad, but the end belief is correct. The actual rules from the Secretary of State, both say apparel is electioneering:

        Watchers may not engage in electioneering while inside the polling place, which includes wearing apparel or accessories that signify support for a candidate or party.

        But that it should not be used to prevent people from voting:

        Enforcement of the prohibition on electioneering should not prevent eligible voters from voting. Thus, in the Department’s view, individual voters who appear at the polling place to exercise their right to vote are permitted to wear clothing, buttons or hats that demonstrate their support for particular candidates.

        So as long as you’re in the act of voting you’re allowed to wear blatantly political clothing, but if you’re just hanging out by the entrance you’re not.