cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/22332949
JD Vance said that āAmerican power comes with certain strings attachedā
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/22332949
JD Vance said that āAmerican power comes with certain strings attachedā
40k Us troops to stationed in Germany alone to defend Europe from Russia who is slaughtering ukrianiansā¦ Instead of you knowā¦
Sure US has no influenceā¦
How do you think it costs US taxpyer?
Oh nooooooo! The poor tax payer helping secure the planet he lives on. How tragic!
Must be nice being a German when Americans pays for your shit.
Fucking parasites.
Yeah because a magic border makes it so that things donāt affect all of us. Isnāt that wonderful?
I legit donāt understand how anyone can think so small.
If a fire starts in a city where everyone has your attitude, how long before it all burns down?
Whether we like it or not, borders arenāt magical lines that protect us from the damage done behind one of those lines. Humanity is responsible for the wellbeing of humanity. No silly little line is going to change that.
Imagine the consequences weād still be suffering (yes, we. All of us) if the US hadnāt joined in WWII.
I honestly donāt understand how anyone can think of their fellow humans as parasites. Weāre all in this together. One big ego with enough support can destroy all of our lives and throw us back into the dark ages.
We have thousands of years of history to guide us. Look into it.
Sure, but itās not the USās job to protect the world. Iām a US citizen, and Iām not a fan of us spending ~5x vs Germany on defense, especially when Germany is such an economic powerhouse in the EU.
I would really like to cut defense spending, but for that to happen, other NATO countries need to increase their defense spending. I absolutely think we should stay in NATO (for the reasons you stated), but NATO is supposed to be an alliance, not a set of countries protected by the US. Yes, itās in our interest to protect the EU, but itās also in the EUās interest to protect the US. We should have each otherās back.
No, they donāt. The US military spending far outpaces any other country. The US spends more than the next 10 countries combined! You donāt āneedā that much spending, but your GDP is happy for that extra trillion every year that some day will trickle down for sure wink wink.
In summary, your rhetoric is pure propaganda of conservative talking points, unfortunately.
Itās really not.
While I agree we need to drastically reduce military spending, that decision has consequences. Weād need to shut down foreign bases, reduce naval presence around the globe, and increase our reliance on reserves instead of standing military. If we do that, thatāll embolden other countries (like China, Iran, and Russia) to fill that void unless other partners step up.
Military spending (and deficit spending in general) is a major issue Iām concerned about, and Iām unhappy with both major parties here. I like Trumpās pressure on the EU to step up their part, but I donāt like his increases to military spending. I like Bidenās and Harris focus on social programs instead of military spending, but I donāt like their lack of cuts. Neither party is actually interested in turning swords into plow shears, they just court the military industrial complex differently.
We need to increase taxes and cut spending, yet both parties seem to do the opposite.
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solid understanding how european security works right here ;)
The US WANTS to be in those bases because it gives them a lot of soft power in foreign relationships, and a base to project power in the part of the world.
If the US gives up NATO, you can also kiss goodbye to any sort of influence on the European countries decision making, as well as any resemblance of military logistic in that part of the world (as well as any sales of military equipment to European countries as itās starting to happen, with many countries investing in their own military industrial complexes). This is why in the past 50 years, regardless of the party, every single US president supported NATO regardless of spendings. It took a moron to say they want out
Iād say that military bases within European countries is the definition of projecting hard power. If 40 000 soldiers in a military base are called āsoft powerā, whatās hard power then? Nuking the city?
40k really isnāt that many, especially when it comes to war. That said, those bases can likely handle a lot higher population, which would rapidly increase in wartime.
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After war in urkaine started why did germany authorize +7k surge?
Asking for a friendā¦
So much cope and denial in this thread haha
pathetic