@ernest how do I report a Magazin on kbin.social ? There is a usere called “ps” who is posting to his own “antiwoke” Magazin on kbin.social. Please remove this and dont give them a chance to etablish them self on kbin.social. When I report his stuff it will go to him because he is the moderator of the magazin? Seems like a problem. Screenshot of the “antiwoke” Magazin /sub on kbin.social. 4 Headlines are visible, 2 exampels: “Time to reject the extrem trans lobby harming our society” “How to end wokeness” #Moderation #kbin #kbin.social 📎

edit: dont feed the troll, im shure ernest will delet them all when he sees this. report and move on.

Edit 2 : Ernest responded:
“I just need a little more time. There will likely be a technical break announced tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. Along with the migration to new servers, we will be introducing new moderation tools that I am currently working on and testing (I had it planned for a bit later in my roadmap). Then, I will address your reports and handle them very seriously. I try my best to delete sensitive content, but with the current workload and ongoing relocation, it takes a lot of time. I am being extra cautious now. The regulations are quite general, and I would like to refine them together with you and do everything properly. For now, please make use of the option to block the magazine/author.”

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    Woke is far-leftist neo-Marxism. What you call “far right” and “extremist” is actually normal, conservative, and Christian. What you call “hateful” is actually just truth telling.

    Downvote me all you want, but you sound like naive child who hasn’t learned how to engage with competing worldviews.

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      If you answer “yes”, you just might be repeating the whisper of a demon."

      So, wait… people who have a competing world view from yours are listening to demons? Now who’s naive? xD

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        Hatred is not speech you disagree with. It’s not speech that hurts your delicate feelings. It’s not speech that contradicts your values. It’s none of that.

        I’m fine with downvotes, although I miss old-school reddiquette back when we upvoted content that should be seen, regardless of whether or not we agreed with it. But this discussion is about banning people and magazines, not downvotes.

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          Hatred is not speech you disagree with. It’s not speech that hurts your delicate feelings. It’s not speech that contradicts your values. It’s none of that.

          Right. It’s speech that tells people they’re not worthy of or welcome to exist.

          Thanks for playing.

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            That’s not exactly what hate speech is, but it’s also not what I said. Standing up for conservative Christian behavior is wholly different from telling anyone they’re not worthy or welcome to exist. We are all made in God’s image, all of us able to repent, be forgiven, and live according to God’s will.

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              So perhaps you should repent for actively hurting your fellow children of God. Because unless you’re not a hardcore old-school christian, freedom of choice on how to live ones life if it doesn’t hurt anybody is a God given right. And you actively want to take that away.

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                I absolutely do not want anyone’s freedom of choice taken away. That’s one of my core principles. God gives us free will so that we may choose. Without the ability to choose, we cannot be saved. So you are grossly misinterpreting me.

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              What if they don’t believe in the Christian God because the Christian God is demonstrably not real?

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                Mmmmm, it’s more like no one can reasonably demonstrate the truth of any god, rather than any specific god being demonstrably false. It’s an important distinction. You can’t disprove a thing, but you can prove that alternate explanations are far more probable, or that the thing doesn’t fit the evidence.

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          No one needs to see this, you are throwing out extremely basic arguments that all of us encounter every day in this regressive society. You aren’t speaking truth to power, you’re just being part of the power right now. You aren’t making yourself look good and you aren’t making the world a better, freer, more nuanced, or happier place.

          People: Hey, stop being a jackass.

          Conservatives: OMG, yoU WANT TO CREATE A FAR LeFTIST ECHO CHAMBER

          Every fucking time.

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          Can you explain how a post that was aimed towards “trans lobby harms our society” is not hatred?

          I mean I somewhat blame the OP for not linking the posts for some context, but after a bit of looking around it sounds like the posts in question are in fact hate speech and not just things to disagree with.

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            What if an article was titled “Christian lobby harms our society”? Would you consider that hateful? Personally, as a Christian, I certainly wouldn’t upvote such an article, but I wouldn’t try to get it banned either. People have viewpoints based on personal experiences, and some people find harm in some political lobbies. It’s not hatred to speak what one believes to be true.

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            Since you read in context, could you tell me where the hate speech is?

            I only see one article where they spend most of the time making a disclaimer in favor of trans rights, followed by a critique of non-diagnosis and surgery on children, or how nothing is allowed to be questioned. That last one we can see in this thread, people are foaming at the mouth over a title (which includes "extreme, btw…), it’s crazy.

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          Do you remember when I called you an asshole?

          I’d like to expand that you’re a mi-sogynist , homophobe, and your support for fascists leaves me with no compunctions presuming you hold racist beliefs as well.

          In short, I want to make clear this is not a case of what you may have read in Mathew 10:22. You are not being persecuted, and it is not “for righteousness’ sake”. You are a hate filled asshole who pursues policies which will harm society, and you seek to insert and establish the dominance of (what you believe to be) the word of your god while desiring safe space free from the calling out of your hate.

          I also suspect you might be closeted.

          That last line is not served as a “gotcha”. I want you to know community and acceptance can exist outside what you seem to have found convening with some very dangerous ideology on the right. I suspect at some level you want to be lead away as as you say yourself there are places you could hang out that would not challenge your beliefs. You are here in a “den of sin”.

          I will commune with a few gods (not yhwh; different better gods) to see if they can bless you with the conviction to choose kindness over cantankerousness.
          Change is possible.
          You are not broken beyond repair.
          I Love You.

          I have faith in your ability to be a better person than you have thus-far demonstrated yourself to be.

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            Wow, this is such a well composed comment that I almost want to upvote it. Nice work with all of the links and research. You deserve a better reply than I have the energy to write, as I’m tired of this conversation. Sorry.

            To address a few of your accusations:

            1. I am not racist. I’d like to remind you that the southern slaveholders were all Democrats, and the Republican party has always opposed slavery. To this day, Democrats are obsessed with skin color, in their CRT and BLM, while Republicans advocate for color-blind meritocracy. Let’s not argue about politics here, please, but no, I am not a racist.
            2. I am not closeted. I do confess that I endure other sorts of evil temptations on occasion, though, just like any human being does, so I can certainly relate to those who suffer from SSA. But as a Christian, I pray that I may be shielded from such temptation when I encounter it, and prayer works.

            And lastly, quickly, to address two other high-level points you made:

            1. I’m here because there are a large majority of non-Christians here, many of whom have no exposure to the word of God or anyone who praises it. I believe the Great Commission tells me to be here, if the community will accept me. I may get plenty of downvotes (seriously, look at my reputation score!), but if I can plant a seed in the fertile heart of even just one other person, the Holy Spirit will do His work.
            2. Despite your rejection of the one true living God, I truly appreciate your expression of love, however sarcastic it may have been (I can’t tell). I am certainly not broken, though I was a broken, drugged out nihilist in my youth before I found Jesus. I love you too, @FfaerieOxide.
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              You seem to be under the mistaken assumption I am interested in debating you.

              I am not. Nor do I care to hear you loudly proselytizing as a certain other group of people do.

              I invite you to consider why you get the reaction you universally seem to to your posts, and proffer that it is not because everyone is jealous that Jesus loves you more than them.
              I am not however here to convert you, nor do I intend to platform fascist talking points by treating them as worthy or needing of debate.

              I will leave you with the words of one of the prophets of my faith,

              “You ain’t a vampire; you don’t have to suck.”

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      Woke is far-leftist neo-Marxism

      Lmaoooo with the buzzwords. Define far-left neo marxism and give some examples of it being promoted by US politicians.

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        I’d be happy to do that, but not in the context of this thread. If m/antiwoke survives, maybe we can have a mutually respectful disagreement about it there in a few days.

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      You know, calling everyone not on your political compass “Not Normal” is kindof not coming off as mature as you think it is…

      Basically rather than “disagree” with people, you’re creating strawmen to debase anyone speaking to you, so you don’t have to disagree with them.

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        I’m sorry. That sounds reasonable. I’m really trying to avoid political debate here, and just stand up for kbin allowing a diversity of perspectives. I understand how that might come across as you describe.

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      We are all happy to engage with competing worldviews

      What you call “far right” and “extremist” is actually normal, conservative, and Christian. What you call “hateful” is actually just truth telling.

      This isn’t a competing worldview, or rather, it’s a competing worldview in the same way that phrenology and alchemy are competing ways to view anatomy and chemistry. Like, it’s possible to genuinely believe in these things if your conditions of childhood existence are so constrained, isolated, or manipulated that you are happier living life in your own personal ‘Truman show.’ But the rest of us don’t have an obligation to play along with your fantasy.

      Most of us here on the internet have at some point met someone we’ve had a reasonable political disagreement with but could walk away understanding each other better due to those disagreements. Most of us would even say thise diagreements have gone in both political directions. The same cannot honestly be said for folks with your version of a ‘world view.’ It’s like a method actor but worse because it lacks any goal, it’s like a person suffering mental but worse because the cause (Patriarchal models of religion) is external, intentional, and had been prosthlytizing delusion as a worldview for millenia.