so basically he didnt actually do anything boycott worthy. he just had a bunch of perpetually online lefties and righties throwing a tantrum on twitter
Israel is currently engaged in a genocide. Some guy talking about how much they love all the beautiful things about Germany in 1942 would get down voted to hell too.
I have family in Israel and have been there several times. I liked it there. I liked how all the signs were trilingual and the food was excessively good. I don’t however approve of the Israeli government or how they’ve gone about this conflict.
Does this make me a bad person in other peoples eyes?
Timing matters. I have family in Austria. I like a lot of things about Austria and I also don’t approve of a lot of things the government does and did.
If someone were to have voiced that sentiment loudly in 1942, they’d probably be an asshole.
Reasonable people focus on banding together to accomplish goals. Do you think shaming someone for visiting family helps you stop the genocide? If every American stopped going to Israel, would that stop it? Please.
This is something the right gets correct every time. They hold their nose and tolerate some things they hate so they can make progress on their other goals. Then when those are done, they do it again and again. Eventually they have what they want.
It’s completely disingenuous to refer to it as just “visiting family.”
He was the one who decided to post a photo op in Tel Aviv. His previous posts make it clear that he knew he was doing so right next to an active genocide. According to the article, pro-Israelis interpreted it as an endorsement of Israeli policy.
Reasonable people still have boundaries. Reasonable people don’t “hold their nose” at genocide. Reasonable people stop believing in empty promises when every Israeli atrocity is rewarded with praise and unwavering support.
Just putting it out there, you are not. Your deeds and intentions are what define you. And there is no race or nationality that makes you inherently bad or good.
so basically he didnt actually do anything boycott worthy. he just had a bunch of perpetually online lefties and righties throwing a tantrum on twitter
Boycotting them is basically impossible anyway.
Dunno why you’re getting down voted.
I visited Israel 10-odd years ago for work and I loved it. Beautiful country and people… if you ignore all the politics. As with the US.
What I hated while there was the demonisation of everything Palestinian. It’s like a cult: if you don’t agree, you’re one of them. (Get fucked).
It’s the timing.
Israel is currently engaged in a genocide. Some guy talking about how much they love all the beautiful things about Germany in 1942 would get down voted to hell too.
these beautiful people are doing a genocide lol
I have family in Israel and have been there several times. I liked it there. I liked how all the signs were trilingual and the food was excessively good. I don’t however approve of the Israeli government or how they’ve gone about this conflict.
Does this make me a bad person in other peoples eyes?
There is no conflict, only genocide.
Me paying my taxes has me certainly conflicted. Does that count?
Timing matters. I have family in Austria. I like a lot of things about Austria and I also don’t approve of a lot of things the government does and did.
If someone were to have voiced that sentiment loudly in 1942, they’d probably be an asshole.
So from your definition, me having family there and having some positive sentiment about some things I experienced there quantifies me as an asshole.
I find the prejudgment interesting. I used to only get this from right wingers for being Jewish but now I get it from both ends haha. Take care!
Your post completely ignore my first and main sentence.
It’s the timing that makes you an asshole, not your sentiment.
Israel is currently engaging in genocide. I know it. The UN knows it. Dogs know it.
Good… good . Fight about another country. Split apart. The imperfect are unclean. Give no quarter.
The left will never unify and the right will win.
If any part of the left is OK with genocide the right is already winning and the only hope is to split with them.
No one is OK with genocide.
Reasonable people focus on banding together to accomplish goals. Do you think shaming someone for visiting family helps you stop the genocide? If every American stopped going to Israel, would that stop it? Please.
This is something the right gets correct every time. They hold their nose and tolerate some things they hate so they can make progress on their other goals. Then when those are done, they do it again and again. Eventually they have what they want.
They understand that real change is a long game.
It’s completely disingenuous to refer to it as just “visiting family.”
He was the one who decided to post a photo op in Tel Aviv. His previous posts make it clear that he knew he was doing so right next to an active genocide. According to the article, pro-Israelis interpreted it as an endorsement of Israeli policy.
Reasonable people still have boundaries. Reasonable people don’t “hold their nose” at genocide. Reasonable people stop believing in empty promises when every Israeli atrocity is rewarded with praise and unwavering support.
Just putting it out there, you are not. Your deeds and intentions are what define you. And there is no race or nationality that makes you inherently bad or good.
Yeah,I had this discussion in other subs but let’s say that I was less successful