• Kusimulkku@lemm.ee
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    8 days ago

    I mean you are being literally assimilated by the majority and losing your original identity. It’s sad and borderline racist to think minorities can’t be proud of their heritage, culture and language without it being a negatively thing.

    If you are fine with what’s happening then you do you, but painting all pride in such things as bad, shame on you.

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      8 days ago

      I am literally not being assimilated by the majority of any kind, I don’t know where you’re getting this from? Just because I don’t identify with being Russian doesn’t mean I identify with being British.

      All of those things are just nation states created in bloody battles, borders carved onto maps and now recorded in papers for use by violence monopolists. I identify with no nationality or national identity of any kind, I am my own person and i will mish and mash cultural artifacts as I find them to my liking.

      I understand that there are many people who cannot escape their ethnic identity due to systemic racism and I am firmly anti-racist for that very reason amongst many more, but even then, it’s their material circumstances that create identity, not voodoo spooks of “heritage” or “culture” or any other irrational nonsense, all of that is aesthetics that should be appropriated when useful to sway to the cause, nothing more.

      No gods, no masters. We must cooperate because it benefits us, not because of borders or what food you eat or anything else.

      If anything, shame on you: talking down my experience because it doesn’t fit the current westerner conception of progressive thinking. Your motivation comes from a good place I’m sure, but it’s not nice to shout down others with different viewpoints or experiences.

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        7 days ago

        You’re not being assimilated but you’ve switched the language and don’t identify with your original identity. Hmm.

        If you are fine with losing that identity, fine. But thinking others, especially minorities, couldn’t be proud of theirs without it being some evil thing… Bit of a red flag.

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          7 days ago

          I’m not losing an identity, I’m gaining one by rejecting the one my birthplace wanted to force on me and everyone who can should do the same rather than allow themselves to be brainwashed by governments into nationalist fervor and pride in what piece of land they happened to be born in.

          And if that happens to be - by choice - a cultural identity of that birthplace, that’s okay too, so long as that is an independent choice, and not brainwashing done by “culture” and pressure from lunatics like you.

          I’m switching to a language that is more useful because more people speak it, especially where I currently live, there are no further implications to language than that.

          I didn’t say anything about “especially minorities”, in fact I specifically carved out the exception that people suffering persecution are not able to escape their identities as defined by their ethnicity or any other innate characteristic above, I fucking know, I’m transgender. I would like to not be defined by that because I’m also a person, but whether I like it or not, sometimes I am, and therefore can’t escape it, not yet.

          It’s pretty clear that I’m not saying that gay people shouldn’t have pride or that black Americans shouldn’t know their history and have solidarity towards each other, yet you keep trying to paint me as racist using minorities as your motte, but really you’re the one who’s racist if you think people being individuals free to choose their own path without being defined by or hurt because of their ethnicity isn’t the goal.

          I don’t know if you’re being dense on purpose or what, I’ve explained it every which way I can think of, but I don’t think you’re acting in good faith, I thought you were a misguided liberal, but I think you’re outright a genuine fascist and genuinely believe everyone belongs with their ethnicity and nationality categorized by culture etc. because you sound like fucking Mussolini, especially with that “modern world” dogwhistle.

          Either way, Blocked.

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            7 days ago

            I’m not losing an identity, I’m gaining one by rejecting the one my birthplace wanted to force on me

            And you say are not being assimilated. Lol