• Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
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      4 days ago

      Same but I think it will soon not be enough. I still cant believe it’s now so difficult to not be a google product, this is a digital nightmare built by decades of unregulated capitalism. Kiss my ass GAFAM.

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        2 days ago

        I mean, nothing is forcing anyone to use any specific product, and there are certainly smartphones with neither Android or iOS.

        Personally, at some point I will switch from iPhone to an Android device that can work with something independent like /e/ or one of the other decent ones.

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      4 days ago

      De-googling is not enough, there must be nothing to de-Google from the start.

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        2 days ago

        That’s one approach but far more limited than just using a Google-free Android build like Lineage.

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          1 day ago

          I know, that’s why I advocate for going Google free from the outset.

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              21 hours ago

              Different threat models have different necessities. I believe a regular user should avoid Google ( or rather all of GAFAMBATX) connections at all costs. I think everybody (me included, of course) is better off with a dumbphone than a Degoogled phone.

              It’s obvious we have different opinions, I respect your right to run any system as you want. I don’t think I have any more to contribute to this topic.

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                17 hours ago

                Yeah I’m not really disagreeing with you it’s just I don’t run anything that’s as privacy-necessary as you. My actual phone is iPhone and all the Android stuff I experiment with are lab systems for tinkering, rom mod testing etc. If I had anything that was being used for any really private or sensitive data, hell yes I would use something completely detached from anything google.