• Amoxtli@thelemmy.clubOP
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    Human rights don’t exist. The environment is there for humans to exploit; think about that when you drive over a paved road or when you eat food. The problem is, for the EU, is that Qatar like most countries don’t think human rights exists, so basically, the EU is taxing them over a made up concept. Who or what determines a human right? If the EU thinks that their values be attached to imports, then so be it. Business is business.

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      Like most everything else the concept “human rights” is a social construct. But arguing that just because something is social construct it doesn’t exist will just confuse and piss off people. Because to them, the concept is very real.

      On the global scene, human rights aren’t worth a damn … at the moment at least. But the EU making human rights violations expensive, that can change this. Because if Qatar can’t sell us its LNG then where can they? Sure China took over for Europe on consuming the Russian fossil fuels. But can China also use all the Qatari LNG? And at what price?

      My point is: if the EU says something is important to them, and if you want to do business with the EU you can either decide it’s important for you too or earn less, then it’s going to be important for you pretty soon. Just look at the GDPR and cookies, a lot of companies got real busy, real quick, changing their attitude to personal information.

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      Human Rights do exist, and are protected at a International level: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_human_rights_law

      The EU explicitly references these in their documentation: https://commission.europa.eu/document/download/7a3e9980-5fda-4760-8f25-bc5571806033_en?filename=240719_CSDD_FAQ_final.pdf

      Qatar even has a committee specifically created to oversee Human rights, although it’s effectiveness is debatable: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Human_Rights_Committee_(Qatar)

      • Amoxtli@thelemmy.clubOP
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        No, human rights don’t exist. It only exists in your head. Do Palestinians have human rights? If so, where are the acute sanctions on Israel? They don’t exist. Human rights have its origins in the Christian religion, which most of the developed world consists of Christianized people. You can go to any Western country today, and still see the Christian cathedrals and churches. The past shapes the future. It is Western countries who perpetuate this. Therefore, it is culturally contingent. Again, what is a human right? Freedom of speech, right to private property, right to money, right to healthcare, right to water, and food? You’re making a belief, and opinion, as if it is a real thing. You drew no lesson from 20 years occupation of Western powers in Afghanistan. Likewise, you don’t understand the world.

          • Amoxtli@thelemmy.clubOP
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            You just proved certain countries have laws regarding human rights. That is all. Saying that a death row inmate should not face execution because it is a criminal’s right to human life is an opinion. There is no rational basis for such reverence.

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              Look, whether you choose to believe in the existence of Human Rights or not is irrelevant to the conversation at hand. Qatar are not arguing over whether Human Rights exist, they are stating they don’t want to conform to them as part of this EU law.